Hey dudes, you're not alone. We too have to put up with those stupid, ugly, tacky fart boxes that are usually driven by pimply faced kids who wear their baseball caps back to front . Those cars do not inspire me at all with their sub woofers thumping tech-no tunes at the lights'n stuff. Just remember, while those rice engines are pushed to the very limits, what with their inter cooled turbo charging, multi valves, nitrous etc, your American iron is doing it easy. They're barely awake - and have so much potential left in them. Just what would happen to a SB Chev that's been massaged to rev to 7000rpm, with twin turbos and nitrous would be unthinkable for the street. Remember, it's uncool to push you're v8 classic against those rice burners - they're not worthy of the petrol wastage. When I slowly pull up against them at the lights in my 327 powered 1970 Holden utility/pick up, I don't even bother looking at the wankers. They know what money can't by - soul. The cars of today have lost most of their soul during the billions of dollars put into N.V.H. (noise, vibration and harshness) reduction development. The steering, suspension, exhaust and engine systems are over isolated from the cabins, giving a numbing sensation to the driving feel. The engineers are told by the marketing departments to make the cars as smooooooth as possible as that's perceived quality. So while they're making us nice cars, we continue to crave for something a little more er', fun. Today when you start the engine of a modern car, there's none of that sensation that the car has suddenly come alive. There's just nothing. It's like being brought up only eating burgers from fast food chains all your life. You'd never know what you're missing....until you taste a real burger, made individually by a real person using real meat. Yeah! A carb fed V8 does and always will, feel better than anything modern technology can come up with. I've driven every car imaginable (almost) and I always feel at home when I fire up those dirty V8's. Have I said too much? Yeah, I'm just fed up too. The Fa*t and Furiou* movie has probably been responsible for who knows how many deaths around the world by drivers imitating the irresponsible stunts seen in the movie. Like driving through red lights. Good one! I'll never race a rice burner. They're not worthy! Rob :boxing: