Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board - Reply to Topic
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Garage - Tools> Converting bead roller to power
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Thread: Converting bead roller to power Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
06-15-2014 08:26 AM
deadbodyman Got it,Thanks....
06-15-2014 08:07 AM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
So you guys just drilled out the guts and just used the urathane wheel part? a friction fit? gotta pic?
100% correct. It is centered with spacers and the end bolt so it can't be forced sideways.

John

06-15-2014 07:05 AM
deadbodyman So you guys just drilled out the guts and just used the urathane wheel part? a friction fit? gotta pic?
06-14-2014 07:27 PM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by timothale View Post
My"skate board wheel" is just a hard push on the shaft , and a hard pull by hand toget it off. My v belt pulley is cast steel or iron .
Ditto, Exactly the same for mine.

John
06-14-2014 05:43 PM
timothale
reid wheel.

My"skate board wheel" is just a hard push on the shaft , and a hard pull by hand toget it off. My v belt pulley is cast steel or iron .
06-14-2014 08:03 AM
deadbodyman I was planning on using a sprocket hub (without the sprocket) from surplus supply and welding the washer to it ,it has the set screws and the right shaft size.
I'm having trouble figuring out how to mount the skate wheel ,I do want it to go on and off easily with set screws like all the other rollers and it has to end up the right size or one roller will spin faster than the other...the more I think on it the more the feed roller sounds like a better way to go...getting the rubber mounted to a steel center piece that fits the shafts should be fairly ez then I just have to turn the whole thing down to the proper size....I stole the kid next doors skate board ....he's a PITA anyways.....little teenage mutants...
I'm just kiddin.....I didnt steel it .....first I ran over the dam thing with my car then waited for him to throw it in the trash....after he got out of the hospital.....He was on it at the time.....
06-14-2014 07:30 AM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
is your V belt pully aluminum or steel ? I may just give up on the skate wheel and use some feed rollers for comercial wood planer and table saws. its a bit softer material but I dont know if thats good or bad.
Again, I bought a small V-belt pulley from Ebay. About 6 dollars if I remember. It is cast iron.

I no longer own a lathe. I hogged mine of with my Plasma cutter. It is ugly but it is functional.

John
06-14-2014 07:15 AM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
I got my roller skate wheel and giant washer together to make a tipping wheel but I dont see how I can mount the wheel on the roller the wheel has bearings and is mounted on a 1/4" shaft so how do you get it on the bead roller shaft? also if the skate wheel and the tipping wheel are not the same size they'll turn at different speeds so the skate wheel should be free wheeling? with bearings? how about some pics and explainations..on the tipping wheel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by timothale View Post
I stopped at a skateboard shop in town and didn't find any wheels I liked. I ordered 2 wheels from reid supply. I don't know which is which . Reids part no 1 US-105 and part no 1AU-824.
The orange one is the one I use. It is a tight push on to the harbor freight 22 mm shaft . I was looking at drilling a washer and bolting it in place of the harbor freight cutting die BUT I ordered a V belt pully from Surplus Supply with a 22 mm bore to fit the HF shaft , then turn it down on the lathe. It is shown on the pict in my post 47 when I put it on the shaft for a trial fit. I can't find the invoice from surplus for a part no.
I bought a cheap 8 dollar drill bit from Ebay. I think mine was 22 mm too but don't remember for sure. Ace hardware had bearing shims that were 1/32 thick if I remember and I sandwich the skate board wheel between the shims to keep from moving but like Timothale says, it is a very snug fit and does not try to slip on the shaft. I also bought a couple of collars with set screws at Tractor supply to use as spacers.

You guys know how frugal (favorite word) I am. I bought 4 used skate board wheel on Ebay for 3.85 if I remember.

Mike what are you going to use for a hub for your upper die?

BTW Don't sharpen it to much, It will cut into the metal and make it weak. You don't want the metal to crack there later on.

John
06-14-2014 07:14 AM
deadbodyman is your V belt pully aluminum or steel ? I may just give up on the skate wheel and use some feed rollers for comercial wood planer and table saws. its a bit softer material but I dont know if thats good or bad.
06-14-2014 07:01 AM
timothale
skateboard wheel

I stopped at a skateboard shop in town and didn't find any wheels I liked. I ordered 2 wheels from reid supply. I don't know which is which . Reids part no 1 US-105 and part no 1AU-824.
The orange one is the one I use. It is a tight push on to the harbor freight 22 mm shaft .My skate wheel turns with the shaft, not free wheeling. I was looking at drilling a washer and bolting it in place of the harbor freight cutting die BUT I ordered a V belt pully from Surplus Supply with a 22 mm bore to fit the HF shaft , then turn it down on the lathe. It is shown on the pict in my post 47 when I put it on the shaft for a trial fit. I can't find the invoice from surplus for a part no. I just matched the sizes of the metal tipping wheel made from the pully to be the same as the HF roller dies. , . We are now up North, cutting hay, and building on our smaller retirement home. Most of my metal tools are down south where we spend our winters.
06-14-2014 04:38 AM
deadbodyman I got my roller skate wheel and giant washer together to make a tipping wheel but I dont see how I can mount the wheel on the roller the wheel has bearings and is mounted on a 1/4" shaft so how do you get it on the bead roller shaft? also if the skate wheel and the tipping wheel are not the same size they'll turn at different speeds so the skate wheel should be free wheeling? with bearings? how about some pics and explainations..on the tipping wheel.
04-08-2014 08:54 PM
timothale
lefty

My son who has put the most miles on it is left handed. It was really an opps. I had it all apart when adding the motor drive systen and reinforcements, The frame is slotted so both the upper and lower shafts blocks are adjustable
04-08-2014 04:34 PM
deadbodyman
Quote:
Originally Posted by timothale View Post
I've got some better picts of my quick release. I welded 2 pieces of angle iron up right with a gap for 3/8 bolts, shown in the second pict. in the first pict I welded a piece of bar stock and threaded the hole for the crank , on the bottom of the all thread I welded 2 nuts to move the link up or down,
Hey Tim, I just happened to notice that your shafts are mounted on the opposite as mine ,is there a reason for that? left handed?
03-15-2014 07:02 PM
Old Fool
Quote:
Originally Posted by John long View Post
I have a servo on my Adler sewing machine and know exactly what you are saying.

I have had and used my bead roller for 25 years and it is true that control is needed but having 2 hands free to guide the metal will be the big benefit. I hope and believe a constant speed will be manageable as long as it is geared slow enough. I think I will mount the motor in a way that it will be easy to remove the chain and attach a hand wheel which in itself would be a big improvement over a crank. That would be an option for any intricate patterns that had to be done.

Thanks for your thoughts.

"[quoto]Tech69 "I'd love to see your ideas. I just got a bead roller and plan to motorize it too."

Henry, you demonstrated pulling a pushed in fender with a metal plate the other day which is going to work perfectly for me where my car was "tagged" in the rear end. I jave learned sooo much here. Hopefully what I doing this will help you and some others. That is what this forum is all about and why I enjoy hanging around here so much.

John

John
A old steering wheel works great to replace the crank handle.
03-04-2014 05:30 PM
gearheadslife don't people sell old junk bikes near you that you could buy for 10 bucks and have 18 speeds for your roller.. or pick what sprocket to put it on as needed (like a drill press) seems the sprockets would be cheaper that way.. and multi speed for 10 bucks
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.