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01-28-2004 11:28 AM
Beenaway2long Mooch-
Take it slow. At 24, you have plenty of time. Do yourself a favor. Live cheap for a few years and BANK it hard. Post a drawing of the dream garage in a few places for inspiration. It won't be long before you get that 60x100 building with heat and air, 4 lifts, and a 8 Babe pit crew! Hang in there! It'll happen if you focus !
01-28-2004 10:01 AM
k2mooch Our other option would be to move into an apartment for a year or two until we're both out of school and getting further into our careers. Till then, the mustang would have to stay at my folks place. The more I put this down on paper and sit with a calculator, the more I'm starting to realize that building our own place now isn't going to be easy, no matter what it is.

This sucks, I need to hurry up and get my degree. Thanks for the advice though guys, there's alot here I didn't factor in, like the fumes and cost of insulation isn't cheap.


MoocH
01-20-2004 06:43 PM
adtkart Mooch..... I understand your needs, but really hate it when someone wants to use all of that good stroage/work space for living space.

Sorry.... I really miss my last 2 garages. 22X26 Barn Type. Full Upstairs (13 X 26) for wood shop plus storage on both sides and in the rafters.
01-16-2004 03:38 PM
Kevin45 Mooch...You could also consider the spray in foam insulation. That would seal all the nooks and crannies that you have plus insulate at the same time. http://www.thermalsealexperts.com/

Kevin
01-15-2004 06:51 PM
TOOLN I used two 45ft trailers bolted together with 30ft cut out of the center. 16ft wide. 8ft tall., 45ft long. One has a roll up door. I used to 5in I beams on 4x8 two support the roof. I put a house door on the side for ease of entry. Best part NO TAXES.
01-14-2004 12:47 PM
k2mooch Here's the one we decided on. Sometime this summer we need to go land shopping. First House


MoocH
01-08-2004 07:47 AM
Beenaway2long OK, here it goes:

After wiring and insulation, take heavy mil poly, and do the walls. Then take poly and do the ceiling. TAPE all joints, especially around windows, doors, and perimeter of ceiling/wall joint. Then apply Fire rated drywall. Tape and finish.

You will also want to rubber-isolate any garage door openers w/ rubber as the noise will transmit through the structure.

Upon completion, liberally apply alcohol to your stomach.

(Ya know, I should really read ALL the posts before replying.)



Sorry guys
01-08-2004 01:23 AM
Kevin45 Mooch...like Gearhead stated, put up a vapor barrier and properly finish off the drywall. Also make sure you have an exterior door if the door that leads up the stairs is going to be on the inside. An exterior door has all the seals that will keep out the fumes etc. Meaning it is sealed with rubber all around.

Kevin
01-07-2004 08:03 PM
Gearhead forever Awesome shops guys! (and rides) Both look well organized and well lit. As for the loft / fumes issue, I would think that the addition of a vapour barrier and proper taping of the drywall joints, it would work out just fine.
12-16-2003 02:41 PM
k2mooch Can't I use a wood treatment or tar-seal of some kind to keep some of the fumes downstairs though? I'm hoping there will be a way I can seal off the upstairs completely, that's why I need a good exhaust system too. Only problem with that is in the winter time, it's going to make it hard to get fumes out of the shop and still insulate for the cold. Thanks for the input though guys, there's obviously alot I have to learn about this.


MoocH
12-16-2003 12:03 PM
hotwheels55
Quote:
Originally posted by paperairplane
Just a quick comment, I currently rent a house where my bedroom sits above the garage and I can park my FI Buick in there, but not my 65 Pontiac. The gas fumes go right upstairs overnight. Just a thought for k2 with the loft.
That could be just the ticket for an in-laws guest house.
12-16-2003 09:29 AM
paperairplane Just a quick comment, I currently rent a house where my bedroom sits above the garage and I can park my FI Buick in there, but not my 65 Pontiac. The gas fumes go right upstairs overnight. Just a thought for k2 with the loft.
12-16-2003 09:23 AM
fat50 USG makes a fire resistant drywall. 2 layers of 5/8" will give you a rating of somewhere around 2 hours.

http://www.usg.com/
12-16-2003 08:59 AM
k2mooch Sweet shop you got there Berm. Poncho yours is definitely less decorated, but the cars parked in either speak for themselves. Good Work fellas

SmoocH and I are thinking about plans for our first house and here's what we're leaning towards. 3 car garage with full storage/shop behind it. Staircase outside leads to the upstairs loft including a bedroom, kitchenette, washer/dryer, full bath, and 20x18 living room. We want to build this in 2 years and pay it off before we build our "House" next to it and eventually use it as a guest house spearate from the main house.

Only thing I'm worried about is a fire in the shop, smoke, and fumes damage to the loft. So we need to find a way to air seal the flooring and have a good exhaust fan downstairs. Any thoughts?

MoocH
12-16-2003 08:36 AM
Bermblaster I wish I could. Not enough room. That oil free air compressor is so loud it makes my ears bleed. I wanted to put it outside. Neighbors would freak. I do a fair bit of work in the evenings. I would stay away from oil free compressors. rebuilt this one three times in the last 5 years. Thanks Berm.
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