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12-20-2005 12:30 AM
krusty well i checked my receipt and the price was actually $260.00. .. farecla is made in england its was the best compound on the market till system one cam out great for 2 pac on brand new cars we used farecla only followed by a quick hand polish but with show cars i used to use farecla g3 then followed by g6 and g10 the web site is www.farecla.com, g3 farecla is great for hand compounding areas were you cant get the buff in
12-19-2005 07:52 PM
chadsbodyshop49119 Ferrecla???? what that??? and 250... um that's insane.. someone should send it to ya.. it'd be cheaper..lol..
12-19-2005 08:30 AM
krusty i voted for system one as well, when the product first came to australia i was asked by PPG to buff our 34 coupe with it and display there product at the major car shows, the finish was unbeleivable, after using it for a few years now ive learned to cheat a little, i use farrecla G3 first with the lambs wool then wash the pad and then use the system one, i find the wool pad good for getting in and around body lines i use the very tip of the pad and lightly buff these tight areas,the only bad thing with system one is its hard to hand compound with it, you guys have it good over there i paid $250.00 for the kit and $78.00 for a 1 litre bottle of the compound
12-19-2005 06:27 AM
esty
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Originally Posted by novafreek6872
Got it today and did the driver door on my Red Nova. That door has NEVER looked this good!!! I would wholeheartedly recommend this system to anyone. Its a bit pricey for what it is ($100 inc. shipping) but, boy does it ever work and ZERO swirls.

Its very convenient being able to use the same "compound" thru the entire process. I don't really think its alot faster than traditional methods, but it is a quality system that does work. I'll be doing the rest of the car with it.

I'm sure people using foam pads and other products get very similar results, the kit comes with a 32 oz bottle of compound/polish, a very nice wool pad and 2 foam pads, also a super soft applicator sponge and a microfiber towel (they coulda thrown in a couple more of those, they really work nice).

I've had my car painted now for 12 years and I have never had a totally swirl free finish till now, my vote goes for system One.
that kits appears to be identical to Norton's liquid ice and from the sound of things, works the same...i wouldn't doubt they're the same product under different labels....the only diff i see is that the liquid ice is about 40% cheaper
12-18-2005 10:17 PM
chadsbodyshop49119 Glad ya like it!!! yea the fact that you can eliminate swirl's easier is a big plus to me.. and as far as speed.. i'd agree,, I wouldn't say that it is really much faster.. but since you only use one compound and it's easier to clean up when your finished buffing, it might save a little time...
12-12-2005 05:44 PM
novafreek6872
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Originally Posted by chadsbodyshop49119
The best advice i could give ya is, try it a few times, you'll get the hang of it.. after my first try i was unsure.... and buff it really good with the first pad.. you won't have to spend much time with the others then.. you can get a really good shine with the wool pad..
Got it today and did the driver door on my Red Nova. That door has NEVER looked this good!!! I would wholeheartedly recommend this system to anyone. Its a bit pricey for what it is ($100 inc. shipping) but, boy does it ever work and ZERO swirls.

Its very convenient being able to use the same "compound" thru the entire process. I don't really think its alot faster than traditional methods, but it is a quality system that does work. I'll be doing the rest of the car with it.

I'm sure people using foam pads and other products get very similar results, the kit comes with a 32 oz bottle of compound/polish, a very nice wool pad and 2 foam pads, also a super soft applicator sponge and a microfiber towel (they coulda thrown in a couple more of those, they really work nice).

I've had my car painted now for 12 years and I have never had a totally swirl free finish till now, my vote goes for system One.
12-07-2005 08:13 PM
chadsbodyshop49119 The best advice i could give ya is, try it a few times, you'll get the hang of it.. after my first try i was unsure.... and buff it really good with the first pad.. you won't have to spend much time with the others then.. you can get a really good shine with the wool pad..
12-07-2005 04:45 PM
novafreek6872
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Originally Posted by chadsbodyshop49119
Right now i'm using system one and like it alot.. used to use perfect it 3, but I like the system one better,, I use wool, then yellow foam then black foam... I don't like to do heavy cutting with foam.. it doesn't cut it for me, but I do like to do my finish work with foam...
How does system one compare to presta.. I definetely prefer the water based compounds after getting used to them.
That's really good to hear as I have a system One kit on the way Expensive kit it better work good!!!

Previously I have used 3M with wool.
12-05-2005 11:16 AM
chadsbodyshop49119 Right now i'm using system one and like it alot.. used to use perfect it 3, but I like the system one better,, I use wool, then yellow foam then black foam... I don't like to do heavy cutting with foam.. it doesn't cut it for me, but I do like to do my finish work with foam...
How does system one compare to presta.. I definetely prefer the water based compounds after getting used to them.
12-05-2005 09:22 AM
jcclark I use both, a wool for cutting with first buffing then a foam
for polishing and swirl removal.
But most of mine are single panel applications, I seldom
buff an entire car.
12-04-2005 02:42 PM
PimpJuice Foam or wool, does not matter in the hands of an experienced pro. Yes wool is faster, but the job can be done either way. Products are mostly the same. It is whatever you become used to
I voted for Evercoat. Good stuff.. I have used 3m and like it, MG is ok,presta I read good things about, and i would shy away from norton since you are only using one product. does not sound right to me. compound and polish should be seperate things imo

PJ
12-04-2005 09:27 AM
crashtech I didn't see an option for wool for cutting then foam for final polishing. Wool pads will "git 'r' done", foam pads are sloooooow! I like to use a glaze with some abrasive in it on the final foam padding so if you run across an area where the sand marks are not all the way gone you can just linger there for a bit and make them go away!
12-04-2005 09:09 AM
BondoKing Ahhh wool and foam lovers

I understand about the bikes MC!!! Dont want to repaint because of edges and the like... and I know we talked about this, thought it would be good for all, until Jim gets ahold of the thread

Bob,I tried the waffle foam pads from 3M before and they loaded up much quicker than the mirror glaze pads I was accustomed to.. they also seemed to grab allot easier and did not clean off as easy either

For foam use I think you cant beat the mirror glaze style pads.. Just my opinion and have seen that Presta is using the same style with their foam

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Wool is working great using 3M Imperial Microfinishing first and 3M Finesse-It II next
Roger I used imperial many years ago and thought it was a step above the mirror glaze diamond cut compound... after getting back into this, I saw everyone was using the Perfect IT ll/lll instead now days.. I still see the imperial on the shelf at my local jobber.. good to see someone still likes it
12-04-2005 08:47 AM
esty i just used the Norton's Liquid Ice, it was my 1st ever attempt at polishing....i found, once i got into it, it went really fast....i got a finish that i could live with, with the 1st step/wool pad...very easy clean up too

Barry....i didn't know there were different grades of wool pads....i couldn't get much results from the foam pads either....using the foam pads seems like a waste of time
12-03-2005 08:48 PM
baddbob I voted foam and perfect it II, the wool pads are definately more aggressive but the 3M waffle foam pads work just fine for me so that's what I use. I then switch to a waffled grey pad for the polishing stage, and sometimes finish by hand when it needs to be perfect-don't laugh, yes a final rub by hand makes a difference.
Watch out for heavy swirl marks when using the wool pads and coarse compound, I've seen them so bad that they had to be sanded out with 2000.
Everyone has their own preference so use what works for you.
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