|12-17-2002 03:59 PM|
|stonedchihuahua||Thanks for the help guys.. KristKustoms or anyone else for that matter... would you mind emailing me any info you happen to have on doing this.... I can never be too informed before i attempt something... firstname.lastname@example.org is the email...|
|12-16-2002 04:55 PM|
|kristkustoms||I dont want to get on here and knock another companies product, but I have installed a customer-purchased Katzkin leather kit, and was very unhappy. The quality of this kit was VERY low. First and foremost, the leather was very cheap and hard. They used a low grade of leather. And the back seat cover wasnt even sewn right. We had to split apart the cover in a couple of places and resew it. I would never install one of these again, and wouldnt recommend them.|
|12-16-2002 02:54 PM|
Stoned, pick up the latest issue of Super Rod with the pic of the Chevy Panel truck on the front. There is an article about Katzkins leather seats.
|12-16-2002 05:47 AM|
just a little word of caution, never use your home sewn seats as templates, keep the original cover and use that every time you try. if you use the last attempt every time, your inaccuracy will get multiplied and the fit will get worse every time you re-do it. And if i were you id go for it and use some quality marerial, and but a roll with imperfections. that way you get something that is decent to work with but doesnt cost an arm and a leg.
but go for it.. it cant be harder than doing quality bodywork, or good enginework, something that doesnt deter people in here.
|12-14-2002 02:41 PM|
|stonedchihuahua||actually I have no money... that is why I am looking at the option of doing it myself... cuz I hate the interior of my car and once my car is painted (again doing that myself) and has the engine in (again that too) I wanna have the interior in nice leather... I have a picture of it done in black and grey with z-28 (front buckets) and the bowtie (back seat) embroidered in the seats.... it looks great and since I might be doing my car either red or yellow then I think it would look great with these colors as the secondary and redo my carpets and everythign black... (right now it is some bronish tan color that is ugly, matches my beenie baby chihuahua I hang from the rear view mirror...)|
|12-14-2002 01:05 PM|
|vintage||u must have alot of money stonedoggie!good luck in your quest my son...|
|12-11-2002 03:23 PM|
I'm not an expert in upholstering - but I do know a little about materials they use.
I believe that Vintage & Krist would agree that if you use an alternate material that the 'stretch' of that material may not be the same as leather ~ therefore the pattern(s) may not be the same.
|12-11-2002 12:49 PM|
|stonedchihuahua||Well then I think I am gunna try doing it in some really cheap material... fit it all then take it apart and do the leather if it turns out nice|
|12-11-2002 05:12 AM|
|kristkustoms||I know what your getting at, you are saying we don't think you can do it. I'm not saying that at all, just speaking from experience. If you think you are comfortable doing it, then by all means go for it. If I thought you shouldnt try it yourself, I wouldnt have typed that really long post saying how to do it.|
|12-10-2002 07:58 PM|
|stonedchihuahua||what if I did it in a crappy material and if it works out then rip it apart and buy the leather and use the crappy material one as the template?|
|12-10-2002 07:53 PM|
|kristkustoms||Like vintage said, there's a hell of a lot more to it than what I typed, including years of learning all the tricks of the trade of upholstering, some people have the knack for it and others don't. Many of my friends have attempted to sew on my machines, some I can tell could learn to sew decently, and some of my friends I can tell there is just no hope what-so-ever. I would suggest not "experimenting" with leather, try a material that is a lot less expensive than leather. And never throw away your original patterns until you are absolutely positive you don't need them anymore.|
|12-10-2002 01:19 PM|
Umm what if I know someone who has it all already... like the industrial sewing machine and thread and basically everything I need.???
oh yeah and my aim here is to do all that I can by myself on my car and then I can have pride in my work and I can learn somethign while it is done.
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|12-10-2002 03:13 AM|
|vintage||oh yeah! piece a cake!!!if u can flip a burger, u can do this...take a look a kristkustom's website...take a look at my stuff in the photo album...then when u r done wasting all that leather,foam, glue,time,money,expletive language...then take it to a real trimmer,who probably spent years tearin'seats apart so he could get the jist of how a seat is actually assembled.let alone just getting the cover off the frame in one piece.oh,yeah,i forgot...needles are $40 a pack,thread is $20 a spool...that's the top thread,bobbins are $45 abox,that's the bottom thread.razorblades-$6...glue-foam-leather???get it??????|
|12-09-2002 02:42 PM|
Some added information. The padding you will be glueing the leather to is called sew foam. You should know it by name when buying your supplies. The easiest (in my opinion) to work with is a Scrim (think cheese cloth) backed sew foam. You will need 1/4" and 1/2" sew foam. The sides and back of the seats you will use the 1/4" thick sew foam, and you can also use the 1/4" sew foam on the seating surfaces of the seat. The 1/2" could be used on the seating surface if you want to add a bit of padding, but i would recommend just using 1/4" throughout the whole seat, this will make it a LOT more managable in the sewing machine.
If you have never done this before, I wouldnt recommend trying to change the shape or contour of the seat. Take the original seat cover off, split it apart at all the seams, and use all these pieces as patterns to cut the exact same pieces out of the leather. Then glue these pieces of leather to the sew foam, trim the sew foam to match, and double check all the pieces to the original patterns you split apart. Sometimes the leather can be stretched a bit bigger than the pattern when you are gluing the pieces to the foam. Once you have duplicated all the original pieces with leather backed with the sew foam, sew these pieces together exactly how the original seat cover was done and you should have your new leather seat cover.
Upholsterers use what you call "registration" or "alignment" marks. Before you split apart the original seat cover, make a line or mark every 5 or 6 inches, on both sides of the seam. Then when you make the new pieces out of leather, transfer these marks from the original pattern to the new leather pieces. Then when you are sewing two pieces together, be sure to line your marks up, and you will be certain that the cover is sewn exactly the way the original was.
You should be able to use all the original listing strips (the grey colored pieces of fabric hidden under neath the seat and inside the cover that hold the cover down in the creases and on the underside of the seats. Seats usually use one of three types of listings, they are either hog ringed on, held on with J-clips (plastic clips shaped like a "J" that slip over the edge of a piece of metal under the seat), or heavy duty velcro. Like I said, you should try and retain the original fastening method, you do NOT want to glue the cover directly to the seat foam (bun or cushion, whatever you want to call it). The seat cover needs to be able to move and breath a little bit, and shouldnt be directly glued to the seat foam.
|12-08-2002 01:13 PM|
|stonedchihuahua||Alright then... thanks the info it sounds like it should work well..|
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