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09-13-2012 08:55 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by jeremy bilbrey View Post
I am very opinionated about this subject. I understand that money is in the forefront of this change. I miss the pre '48 shows, if anything they could have moved the cut off date to '72 like the Shades of the Past Rod Run(which I dont necessarily agree with either) and not have a revolving cut off every year..one day i can imagine a '89 or '90 escort beside me at the show...ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Supercharged03 View Post
What do you think of this?

My Dad built this car out of 16 gauge sheet metal and 1-3/4 inch steel tubing. Titled it as a 1983 "assembled vehicle". I guess IT would not get in to the NSRA meet this year.

But hey, it's got no fenders!
It will next year though Supercharged. Even though I now have a 36 Hot Rod, I have always loved the customs and 50's cars. Owned a few of them too. I agree with Jeremy. There should have been a cut off date that allowed the fifties and sixties modified cars to be admitted. I think the NSRA has hurt themselves in the long run. I do believe that moving the cut off date does allow the younger guys with less money to spend to enter our sport and Lord knows we need that. It also allows for more diversified interests to be represented. I went to the Nationals in Louisville and the Nats south in Knoxville and saw very few cars that I felt shouldn't be there. I just can't see that Escort parked next to Jeremy's '37 Coupe. Makes no sense.

John L
09-13-2012 08:35 PM
Supercharged03
No fenders makes a hot rod?

What do you think of this?

My Dad built this car out of 16 gauge sheet metal and 1-3/4 inch steel tubing. Titled it as a 1983 "assembled vehicle". I guess IT would not get in to the NSRA meet this year.

But hey, it's got no fenders!
09-13-2012 08:12 PM
Supercharged03
Pre-1948

The pre-1948 rule turned me off to NSRA back in the 70's when I first started driving. My first car was a 1951 Chevy Fleetline, so it would not make the cut. Then, 1973, the only pre-48 steel you could find was original and the only fiberglass was for a VW dune buggy or a T bucket. Now, 40 years later, you can almost assemble an entire 49-54 Chevy with new after-market steel AND get it into the NSRA meet.

In my opinion, these arbitrary rules defining a "hot rod" or a "street rod" or a "rat rod" end up fracturing the participants in an unnecessary way.
09-13-2012 06:43 PM
jeremy bilbrey I am very opinionated about this subject. I understand that money is in the forefront of this change. I miss the pre '48 shows, if anything they could have moved the cut off date to '72 like the Shades of the Past Rod Run(which I dont necessarily agree with either) and not have a revolving cut off every year..one day i can imagine a '89 or '90 escort beside me at the show...ridiculous.
09-13-2012 02:52 PM
Bondoman
NSRA 48 & older

NSRA this weekend in Kalamazoo Michigan You can get in with a 1982 or older. I have been going for years with my 53 chevy pu but it looks like a 48 so who knows? Used to be about 2800 to 3000 cars but now about 1800. some real nice newer stuff there
08-10-2010 10:53 AM
pepi Personally to me street rods are wanbe hotrods anyway, no go twinkly, twinkly little chrome star.

The idea that one takes a car that is just rusted and bashed up, fixes it, slaps fancy paint on it and basically looks stock in the end is boring.

A hotrod needs pizazz , in your face no fenders, side pipes and loud, thats appealing.

I am not king so all I say is just the way I view the world. I like cars and a fine well finished machine is t i t s in my book. I only see American iron when I go to the shows, big honking American iron.
08-09-2010 09:04 PM
58Apache
Two types of machines

I can see where someone might think that they are two different types of machines .......for a VERY short time period!

The NSRA manufactured the definition of what a "Street Rod" is and it didn't exist before they did! Then by not enforcing a strict rule guideline things seemed to fall into gray areas.

The NSRA is NOT a club that votes by membership. It's a privately owned business that has to survive in a tough economy.

I think I can argue that my flame engulfed 1969 is more of a "Street Rod" than many cars that came through the gates the last few years!

I don't understand the logic of excluding cool cars from the show because of age. I do know that it worked to get in younger people and that's a good thing!

So while 21 years difference in manufacture from the same place is a sin, replicars that loosely resemble older cars are perfectly fine? Rat Rods are fine? The list goes on!

Trying to restrict the entry is not good business sense. It's also not a true car lover's logic.

A cool car is a cool car, no matter the year of manufacture. Heck I like some of the new muscle coming out today and don't mind seeing it at the local cruise-ins!
08-09-2010 08:41 PM
pepi NSRA, national street rod assoc. And there are muscle cars, two completely different types of machines.
08-09-2010 08:04 PM
58Apache
NSRA Nats revisit

Ok, I threw this out there a couple of years ago because I seen the change coming, and wanted it to within reason. I also seen the line being drawn in the sand.

I stand with the "nothing newer than 72" logic, but the extremely small percentage of mid to late 70's cars that came to the NSRA Nationals were few and far between.

I seen some fantastic Detroit Iron from the 50's, 60's and early 70's.

I tried to make the point that the change was coming and that we need to manage it instead of drawing the line in the sand and falling on swords.

I liked most of what I seen and prefer a lot of 50's and 60's cars to a lot of 40's and 20's... just my opinion.

I seen some fantastic cars that would not have made it in last year, and a lot more cars that I personally liked!

I also seen a significant increase in younger people attending.

If the NSRA can define what a Street Rod is in the first place, they can danged sure well re-define it as well!

Not all change is bad!
08-24-2008 04:21 PM
Don Lyon
NSRA open to newer cars?

I dont want a change,if you want to look at or show with muscle cars, do it. I wouldnt show up at a Vintage Packard show or the Mopar Nats with my 46 Ford. Las Vegas had a HUGE Corvette Organization and you can bet your sweet backside no Mustangs ever showed up at their events. I prefer cruises to shows any time, (I am non-denominational) just no hassle and a great variety of people.
08-23-2008 08:23 PM
58Apache
Rats!

The rats are here to stay. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/newr...e=1&p=1010332#

Like them or not they fit into the broad qualification of anything before 1948 is a "Street Rod".

The term Hot Rod is a little more definable. So is ricer, although it's getting a little more gray now.

You already have Ricer engines in Street Rods though. So change is happening, and not everyone will like the change, but many have accepted the change that has already happened and moved on.

I don't like some things done to some cars of the 60's and don't care for some of the cultures of some car guys. I seem to get along with most Street Rodders and most Hot Rodders I have met.

I don't care for burn outs, but will watch the stupidity just for the sake of wonderment at how someone could do that! Doesn't mean I want to hang out with them. The guys I like to hang out with have a little more sense. Will I lay a little scratch now and then? You betcha! But the line between a demonstration of power and demonstration of stupidity is pretty clear to me. Maybe not someone else, and that's ok. But I watch and accept, while I don't always agree.

We all have our opinions, likes and dislikes, and won't always agree on everything. And that's ok! That's what freedom is all about. Thank a vet!

Steve
08-23-2008 07:06 PM
F&J
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Ok guys, I'll attend the shows that allow me in and won't try to dirty the grounds with my hot rod that doesn't deserve to share the ground with the rat rods at Louisville.

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Guys, it goes way beyond the cars. The cars themselves are a small part of the overall experience. It goes in to good friends sharing good times, entertainment, education, going out for a good meal with good people, a chance to get away and immerse in a car culture.



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I sure hope they don't eventually allow ricers though.

I'm not mad, and I am not picking on you...but... ...


look at 3 things you put in the last post.



EDIT: I guess what I am saying, is like the issues here in CT with yups moving into once-country settings on nice cutesy farm roads. They find some land, build their monster, but then want the town to restrict ANY more building permits because the road & town won't look the same. So, you want the rats & ricers excluded, but want your "too new" truck and chevelle to be included.......because those 2 are "more" of a streetrod than a rat or ricer??
08-23-2008 06:55 PM
58Apache
OK, I give..

Ok guys, I'll attend the shows that allow me in and won't try to dirty the grounds with my hot rod that doesn't deserve to share the ground with the rat rods at Louisville.

I was just curious how many would take your cars and go home so to speak.

When it happens don't blame me. I have no say. I don't know if I'll try to get in that first year or not. I prefer NSRA over GoodGuys for a couple of reasons. I sure hope they don't eventually allow ricers though.

One last thought before I let this thread die. There apparently is no clean lines in defining a street rod that I am satisfied with at this time other than 1948 being the last year of a street rod.

And anything a corporation can manufacture in fiberglass that looks reasonably close to 30's/40's qualifies where as a 1950's Detriot steel body does not. ok, I accept that.

Toyota 6 bangers work for a street rod, but a classic 348 American V-8 won't work in a newer vehicle. Ok,fine.

Rat rods are ok! ....alright, I accept that.

One thing I read in the magazine they put out when you get your package is a poll they published on what people liked best about the Nats. I'll never forget it! The poll asked: "what is it you like best about the Nats?". The answer that got the most votes was "the trip out there with good friends".

Guys, it goes way beyond the cars. The cars themselves are a small part of the overall experience. It goes in to good friends sharing good times, entertainment, education, going out for a good meal with good people, a chance to get away and immerse in a car culture.

When the year limit changes, non of that goes away. I sure hope to see plenty of 32's 33's and 34's among the 55's 56's 57's ...and may be even 58's? Maybe it won't happen for several years yet? I'll wait.

Steve
08-23-2008 12:56 PM
NEW INTERIORS I think it need's to stay the way it is.A street rod is a street rod,And hot rods are hot rods,And so on!!!!!
08-23-2008 11:35 AM
Centerline
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Originally Posted by Deuce
............I think it will happen ... but when it does ... the NSRA events will be nothing more than a GoodGuys event IMHO.
I agree completely. Every year for the last 15 or so (before and after we moved to AZ) I have made the trip to the Nats. Columbus, Oak City, and Louisville. Once they let the newer cars in, and I think it is inevitable, there will be no reason for me to spend the money to continue to attend the Nats. I already have a GoodGuys show just 3 hours away down in Scottsdale so why drive 2 1/2 days to attend another.

Don't get me wrong, I love the muscle cars of the 60's and pretty much all the 50's cars. But when the NSRA starts letting in the newer cars into the Nats, we will most likely start scheduling our trips back east to attend the all Chrysler show at Carlsile or possibly the Mopar Nats instead.
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