|08-17-2009 07:52 PM|
|Jon||Just updating this thread with a new wiki article: Contact adhesive.|
|10-15-2008 01:19 PM|
|DanTwoLakes||You shouldn't get glue all over the place adding insulation to your roof, but it wouldn't hurt to take the seats out while you do this and cover the carpet with a dropcloth. Taking the seats out will make the job a lot easier.|
|10-15-2008 01:01 PM|
Yes, I am gluing the headliner to a board (and will do that outside the vehicle) but read another thread where a guy used spray adhesive to glue a stick-on aluminum backed insulation to the interior. It was a Home Depot type product, not a "true" automotive sound insulation product. The insulation already had an adhesive but he used the spray-on stuff for a little insurance. Thanks for the tip...I think that will work.
|10-15-2008 07:42 AM|
|DanTwoLakes||I thought you were covering a headliner board? If so, take it out of the vehicle to do the gluing. There is no way to do that correctly doing it in the car. These aerosols are a little more unpredictable than bulk spraying equipment, but with a little practice you can spray it quite accurately. If I have to spray in the vehicle, I keep a 6" wide by 15" long piece of chipboard with me to block off places I don't want overspray. These glues clean up easily with mineral spirits if you do goof up a little, so keep some of that handy as well.|
|10-15-2008 02:15 AM|
|ScotY||This is kind of a dumb question but, aside from taping off and covering up the entire interior of the vehicle, is there some trick to spraying this stuff so it doesn't get on everything?|
|10-14-2008 10:48 AM|
A good adhesive for headliners is the 3M 8088, General Trim Adhesive. It has an adjustable spray nozzle, and goes on in a nice lacey pattern. I have used it for several years, and haven't had any problems with it. The 3M 8090 Super Trim Adhesive works as well, but does carry a much stronger odor that sometimes stays around longer than you would want. They are both available at Wal-Mart for under $10.00 a can, which is cheaper than at the local auto parts store.
|09-25-2008 01:36 AM|
Thank you...I did take a look at the link, mostly just to see what the product labels look like so I can try to find them locally.
See, the problem is I live in the middle of the Pacific and it's pretty much impossible to order anything like paint or aerosol stuff over here. It's frustrating to no end!
I've been wanting to get some SPI epoxy primer and have just about given up trying to figure out how to get it here. If anyone knows how, please contact me as there are so many products I'd like to get but haven't been able to figure out how.
|09-24-2008 10:24 PM|
|DanTwoLakes||You're welcome Scot. Go back 6 posts and click on the link I left you. You can get most of the aerosols I mentioned there.|
|09-24-2008 07:45 PM|
|ScotY||Thanks Dan, that's great info! I will search for the DAP and 3M top and trim spray cans but I have a feeling I'm going to have to settle for the 3M 08090 Super trim adhesive since that's about all I've seen around here.|
|09-24-2008 02:43 PM|
|DanTwoLakes||3-M 08090 aerosol Super trim adhesive will work just fine for that application. Holding headliner fabric up is not it's best use.|
|09-24-2008 01:05 PM|
I just finished insulating the cab of me truck including the headliner....I used 3M's "super trim adhesive". don't recall there being a number on it like 77 which I was warned about. Seems to hold very well but then it's only been a month.
|09-24-2008 09:46 AM|
|DanTwoLakes||I have never had any luck with either 3-M 74 or 3-M 77, and I use adhesives every day.|
|09-24-2008 09:01 AM|
|09-24-2008 08:18 AM|
|firstname.lastname@example.org||3M77 is general purpose and not intended for permanent work. 3M99 is the super grip version and is the one used by some (most) pros for the permanent jobs in upholstery like headliners.|
|09-24-2008 07:58 AM|
The foam bonded to the velour fabric is an open cell polyurethane foam. Your best bet is to use a high temp spray grade contact adhesive like DAP Weldwood top and trim adhesive, 3-M Top and trim adhesive, or Helmitin Helmiprene, even if you have to spray or brush it on for a headliner. There is also a product called K-Grip 202 High Temp. All of those are best if sprayed. If I were you, I would invest in a cheap spray gun from Harbor Freight with at least a 2MM nozzle (They only cost about $20. Part # is 43760-6RBA) and use one of the bulk adhesives.
Do not use 3-M 74 or 77. They are general purpose adhesives and will fail if used on your headliner.
DAP makes an aerosol called Weldwood top and trim spray, and 3-M makes 08090 Super Trim adhesive. There is also a spray called Performance High Temp contact adhesive. All of those are your next best bet, but they are not really recommended for foam backed headliners. Here's a link to some of these: CLICK HERE Good luck.
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