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10-12-2008 04:09 PM
techinspector1 Maybe it looks something like this beat-up old Plymouth...
10-11-2008 10:03 PM
James B Hemi
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Originally Posted by OHD
14 teens in the 1/4

Yup, that is a real goal to obtain.......for a FORD 5.0

I tend to shoot for single digit 8 numbers in the 150-160MPH plus range in the 1/4 with my beat up old Plymouth...
Would love to see pictures of some of your toys.
10-11-2008 01:43 PM
ScoTFrenzel
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Originally Posted by techinspector1
400 block. Bore 0.050" to 4.390"
440 crank. Offset grind rod journals to 2.200" for new stroke of 3.925"
BBC 6.135" rods. Bore pin end 0.050" to 1.040"
429 Ford flat-top pistons +0.030".
Presto, 475 CID.
Good info,
but a lot of $$$$$$$ to gain only 24 cubes over a 440/451.
BUUUUT a 400 is a short deck...... if stealth is important.
10-11-2008 02:41 AM
techinspector1 400 block. Bore 0.050" to 4.390"
440 crank. Offset grind rod journals to 2.200" for new stroke of 3.925"
BBC 6.135" rods. Bore pin end 0.050" to 1.040"
429 Ford flat-top pistons +0.030".
Presto, 475 CID.
10-10-2008 10:30 PM
ScoTFrenzel
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Originally Posted by ScoTFrenzel
You cannot make a 413 block into a 440 = period.


Later 440s pop up around here for less than $200 once in a while. The last 2 we got we gave $ 100 each for, one had a 727 on it.
Pulled the salvage yard $100 440/727 apart last night. Complete, stock intake, and bad Holley.
Found a recent rebuild = .030/.020 cast crank, .060 over with cast pistons .125 down in the hole, average BBM open chamber heads with HD bronze guides, decent valves, bearings look like new, .002 total bore excess at the top. Looks like a deglaze and rering..... defintely worth $100 for a complete engine.
Will get the usual cam upgrade, Perf RPM, carb, distributor....should make an honest 370 hp for $800 total.
09-28-2008 02:04 PM
ScoTFrenzel
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Originally Posted by Stroke
THNX. Now I need to find one (some) and get one of my trucker buds to do a pick up for me. Freight will kill ya
Lots of old yard bait hanging out behind the barns. Finding them...mmmm.
09-28-2008 02:02 PM
Stroke THNX. Now I need to find one (some) and get one of my trucker buds to do a pick up for me. Freight will kill ya
09-28-2008 01:59 PM
ScoTFrenzel
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Originally Posted by Stroke
Don't know where you are but I have never seen one for less than 2 1/2 times that amt. unless it was a real bad smoker or knocking. What ZIP are you at?
Southern Missouri border.
No rusty bodies here either.

In April bought a running driving no smoker complete car for $ 250.
Pulled the 440/727 and Got 350 for the car as scrap iron.
09-28-2008 01:55 PM
Stroke
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440s pop up around here for less than $200 once in a while
Don't know where you are but I have never seen one for less than 2 1/2 times that amt. unless it was a real bad smoker or knocking. What ZIP are you at?
09-28-2008 10:45 AM
ScoTFrenzel You cannot make a 413 block into a 440 = period.

If you find a 413, at least you will have a steel crank and decent rods. Maybe. I am not sure the 72 motor home engine has steel crank.
Most else is scrap iron..... maybe you want to salvage the closed chamber heads, unless it is a 70s motor home 413.

Later 440s pop up around here for less than $200 once in a while. The last 2 we got we gave $ 100 each for, one had a 727 on it.
09-27-2008 09:22 PM
Stroke
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Yup, that is a real goal to obtain.......for a FORD 5.0
Dig that! The reality though is much different. I'm not a Ford fan, 'cept their trucks. I've been seeing some very fast Fords at the track. They are what they are.


Anyway, I'd opt for a good 400 block. Check the true tech on them and you'll know why. How about a 500" 87 octane 300C?
09-27-2008 04:59 PM
OHD 14 teens in the 1/4

Yup, that is a real goal to obtain.......for a FORD 5.0

I tend to shoot for single digit 8 numbers in the 150-160MPH plus range in the 1/4 with my beat up old Plymouth...
09-27-2008 04:47 PM
spinn my butt! 5.0L are fast. like stock WXR's and camaro's , very fast feeling cars , but actually low 14's in the quarter.

if your say a old GMC full size truck, with a mild I300 straight six can lay the quarter in the low 14's, youre confused.
09-27-2008 12:12 PM
OHD "it accelerates like the first 4 gears of a 90's 5.0L mustang 5 speed"

I HAVE A GMC STRAIGHT 6 THAT DOES THAT.... try for a tab better than that....
09-27-2008 10:46 AM
spinn 413" can been peppy. i have two drivetrains from mopar 323"(318) and a 440"(452"). both similar ratio 4 speeds with 3.23 rear gears. they are rockets.

i am running a tuff 440" in my cuda, and can agree with whats been said above. they have the torque you need to really pull you forward. dont over cam and loose it all. give it at least a 3.23-3.73 gear, if you build it up.

my old 4 door valiant basically stock 323" , 4 speed hauls balls. has the 340 hp MP cam "290 hp" 268.276 .430"/.444". streetmaster single plane, summit headers, stiff springed 770 street avenger. 3.23 rear sure grip. it makes 237 rwhp, lil over 300 at the flywheel. it accelerates like the first 4 gears of a 90's 5.0L mustang 5 speed.
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