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Today 05:34 PM
MARTINSR I didn't know, Ford also sold this Mercedes van rebadged.

Brian

Today 05:05 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by Joe G View Post
You got it, BB! Sterling Bullet is the answer I was looking for.

When Daimler-Freightliner bought Ford Heavy Truck Division, they changed the name from Ford to Sterling. As a result, Ford Truck dealerships became Sterling dealerships and sold Sterling trucks.

An interesting side note; when Ford sold their heavy truck division to Daimler, they not only sold the rights and tooling to their freshly redesigned HN80, but they also sold them the rights and the leftover parts and tooling to every Ford heavy truck ever made - all the way back to 1957, including the L-series, C-series, CL-series, N-series and W-series. I forget exactly how much Ford sold the division for, but it was something less than they had just spent developing the HN80. Sad story, but time marches on.

I suspect that Sterling Bullets will become popular with collectors some day, similar to how Mack Jrs. are coveted by truck collectors today.



Well done, BB, the floor is yours.
I went to work for Daimler when they bought the Sterling. Indeed, many Ford dealers did become Sterling dealers but Sterling was never sold through the Ford Franchise.

One interesting note about Ford selling all the parts rights to Daimler was that many of the parts suppliers would not make parts for Daimler without negotiating a new contract and in some cases refused to produce parts. They had no legal requirement to do business with Daimler and we found ourselves with 4 year old L Series Ford trucks that Ford no longer could sell parts for, we could not get parts from the suppliers and the owner had an almost new truck broke down looking for parts. There were some real nightmare stories.

Of course, At the time Daimler owned Chrysler too so making the bullett with a rebadged Dodge truck was a no brainer.

This questioned brought back a lot of memories some very good, some not so much.

John
Today 04:04 PM
MARTINSR I'll be damned I never knew those existed.

Brian
Today 03:54 PM
Joe G
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Originally Posted by boothboy View Post
I believe the now defunct Sterling Trucks were sold through Ford dealerships. They used a re-badged Chrysler Ran Truck to fill their medium duty line and called it the "Bullet". Interestingly enough Freightliner ,who resurrected the Sterling name, bought the Ford HN80 ("AeroMax") family of trucks and sold them under the Sterling brand.
In the mean time Sterling was manufacturing it's own line of trucks. Re-badge, re-badge, re-badge! Sterling Trucks closed shop in 2008

BB
You got it, BB! Sterling Bullet is the answer I was looking for.

When Daimler-Freightliner bought Ford Heavy Truck Division, they changed the name from Ford to Sterling. As a result, Ford Truck dealerships became Sterling dealerships and sold Sterling trucks.

An interesting side note; when Ford sold their heavy truck division to Daimler, they not only sold the rights and tooling to their freshly redesigned HN80, but they also sold them the rights and the leftover parts and tooling to every Ford heavy truck ever made - all the way back to 1957, including the L-series, C-series, CL-series, N-series and W-series. I forget exactly how much Ford sold the division for, but it was something less than they had just spent developing the HN80. Sad story, but time marches on.

I suspect that Sterling Bullets will become popular with collectors some day, similar to how Mack Jrs. are coveted by truck collectors today.



Well done, BB, the floor is yours.
Today 03:12 PM
boothboy I believe the now defunct Sterling Trucks were sold through Ford dealerships. They used a re-badged Chrysler Ran Truck to fill their medium duty line and called it the "Bullet". Interestingly enough Freightliner ,who resurrected the Sterling name, bought the Ford HN80 ("AeroMax") family of trucks and sold them under the Sterling brand.
In the mean time Sterling was manufacturing it's own line of trucks. Re-badge, re-badge, re-badge! Sterling Trucks closed shop in 2008

BB
Today 03:09 PM
Joe G
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Originally Posted by bubba1955 View Post
Does it have anything to do with the Ram 50? Maybe Ford dealerships sold the Mitsubishi line too?
No, the Rams I'm talking about were in the 1-1/2 to 2-ton range. Most of the ones I've seen on the road have been made into tow trucks.
Today 03:01 PM
bubba1955 Does it have anything to do with the Ram 50? Maybe Ford dealerships sold the Mitsubishi line too?
Today 02:13 PM
Joe G
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Originally Posted by boothboy View Post
Were they sold under the Ford name?

BB
It was not badged as a Ford, but was available through any Ford Truck dealership.
Today 01:53 PM
MARTINSR That's funny because I know of a Ram truck that is a re-badged Mercedes but I don't know of Ford using a Ram, hmmmmm

Brian
Today 01:23 PM
boothboy Were they sold under the Ford name?

BB
Today 01:04 PM
Joe G Thanks, Brian.

Next question:

Just a few years ago, at a Ford dealership I used to work at, they sold trucks that were basically re-badged Ram trucks. What were they? (make and model).
Yesterday 01:41 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by Joe G View Post
Could it be that one of them uses through-hole mounted moulding clips and the other uses stud-mounted clips?
Bing Bing Bing, we have a winna! The late '65 used the welded on studs to hold on the mouldings. Where as the early '65 used a hole in the door or quarter for the clip to pop into. When I converted my drivers door from Skylark to Gran Sport all I needed to do was weld up the small hole at each end for the lock in stud and grind off the studs across the middle. Where as using an early '65 door would have required welding up about a dozen 3/4 x 1/4" holes!

They were the same as the window moulding studs.



It's your floor.

Any ideas on the rear body panel? That was totally different, because of the tail lights.





Brian
Yesterday 01:20 PM
Joe G
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
You were on to something with the clips for the mouldings.

Brian
Could it be that one of them uses through-hole mounted moulding clips and the other uses stud-mounted clips?
Yesterday 12:39 PM
MARTINSR This is fun, it's gotten your curiosity.

Yep, the quarter and the door will innerchange from early to late '65, they are identical in every way....outside of the mouldings that look identical early and late when on the car. You would need to remove the moulding to see the difference.

Let me put it this way, I have a late '65 Skylark door on my Gran Sport, I would have never wanted to use an early '65 door.

Brian
Yesterday 12:23 PM
496CHEVY3100
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
It's actually visible in all three. But one of them much more.

Brian
This one has me baffeled since some are rear view and some are front ,but you stated you can see it in ALL photos ,,

The only difference I can see is the raised ridge that the side molding sits on .but that is not mechanical it is cosmetic ,,and I cam see that without opening the door.
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