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06-01-2009 02:51 PM
sb68ss Copper brake lines have been used in denmark for many years to replace the steel lines that does not last long with all salt on the roads in the winther time, and copper lines are very easy to make i have the tools for it my self, never heard of a copper line to fail only steel line that rust and leak
03-05-2009 05:18 PM
CQNRQY
line at my Napa store

Thanks 4 the part #
I'll check out the Napa store
CQNRQY
03-05-2009 05:04 PM
ProjectSVO
Copper-Nickel brake line

Quote:
Originally Posted by CQNRQY
I said I'd update on the availability in Canada and the US.
Well I Can't do so since the reps of this company have not sent me any info
It sounded like a good product. But I guess we'll have to wait for that info to get out.
Sorry Guys

Conroy
Conroy, Do you have any NAPA parts stores up there? If so you can get it there.
Brake Line - Universal Copper Nickel Hydraulic NAPA Item#: BK 6413347
Quote:
Attributes:
Diameter:3/16"
Length:25.0'
Product Features:Tubing Provides Superior Reliability & Assures Both Manufacturers & Vehicle Owners Improved Durability For Effective Long-Life Functioning of Brake Systems
Coils Will Require Flaring Tools & Tube Nut
Material:Copper-Nickel Alloy
Bendable:Yes
End:Open
Contents:Fluid Line
Manufacturer:American Grease Stick Company
Mfg Part Number:CNC-325



Quote:
Originally Posted by rack
Thank you very much guys.

I got the info I was missing.
May be my question sounded stupid to you, but here in Bulgaria, I went to some shops and anywhere they offered me copper tubes as brake lines
Furthermore, I cannot order new brake lines from USA because the lines are so long that it is imposable to ship overseas
I would need to order roll of tube and made it myself.

Thank you for your help.

Ivo
Ivo, If your local shops offered you Copper-Nickel brake line I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be OK to use on your American car. In fact it should last longer than the steel lines that came on it.
03-05-2009 04:07 PM
CQNRQY
Re the copper /nickel brake lines

I said I'd update on the availability in Canada and the US.
Well I Can't do so since the reps of this company have not sent me any info
It sounded like a good product. But I guess we'll have to wait for that info to get out.
Sorry Guys

Conroy
03-02-2009 04:30 PM
CQNRQY
Copper Nickel Brake Lines

Quote:
Originally Posted by SSedan64
Wonder how much the cost difference between Steel, Stainless & Copper/Nickel Alloy is? And if you can find C/N tubing here?
I'm going to find out
I have an address and a name
I've emailed them.
I asked them if it's a vailable here in North America and if it's legal here.
I'll post the results ASAP.

Here's their Name and address;
Canadian Copper and Brass Development Association
49 The Donway West
Suite 415
North York, ON M3C 3M9
Canada
Phone: (416) 391-5599
Fax: (416) 391-3823
E-mail: sawknapp@coppercanada.ca

Stephen W. Knapp,
Executive Director
03-02-2009 11:08 AM
T-bucket23
Quote:
Originally Posted by rack
Hi guys,
This thread is getting interesting :-)

As I keep looking for someone here to make steel brake lines... I still got no luck, I decided to make brake lines by myself (hope with some advices and help from you )

I am looking at these tools and supplies:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Profe...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-16-...motiveQ5fTools

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25-Br...Q5fAccessories

What do you think? Is it what I need?

I will add tube nuts as well.

Thanks for your help,
Ivo
The rolls of line are easy to work with as they are a little softer than regular straight line and you can go up to 25" with no joints. If you are trying to match a factory line it is more difficult when using the rolls of line as you need to make the straight parts straight. If you are just doing a repair or dont care if your straight sections are perfect then the rolls are perfect. The do make a tool to straighten the rolled line, but buy the time you get through buying the tool it would have probably been cheaper just to buy straight lengths of line.
03-02-2009 10:07 AM
rack Hi guys,
This thread is getting interesting :-)

As I keep looking for someone here to make steel brake lines... I still got no luck, I decided to make brake lines by myself (hope with some advices and help from you )

I am looking at these tools and supplies:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Profe...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-16-...motiveQ5fTools

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25-Br...Q5fAccessories

What do you think? Is it what I need?

I will add tube nuts as well.

Thanks for your help,
Ivo
03-02-2009 08:10 AM
59 wagon man hydraulic supply by me won't make any lines that use brake fluid due to liabilities
03-02-2009 06:11 AM
SSedan64
Quote:
Originally Posted by red65mustang
westmus,
that's a copper-nickel alloy tubing...

here's some details:

http://www.copper.org/applications/a...rake_tube.html

PS: the real argument for the copper/nickel is the old DOT3 fluid caused steel tubing to rust from the inside out....
Wonder how much the cost difference between Steel, Stainless & Copper/Nickel Alloy is? And if you can find C/N tubing here?
03-02-2009 04:30 AM
CQNRQY
Copper Lines

I love it
You never stop learnig
I wonder if these nickel / copper alloy lines are available to us in Canada?
Are they legal as replacement here?
I'll do some investigation and get back
Got ot go to Work now
03-01-2009 04:50 PM
red65mustang westmus,
that's a copper-nickel alloy tubing...

here's some details:

http://www.copper.org/applications/a...rake_tube.html

PS: the real argument for the copper/nickel is the old DOT3 fluid caused steel tubing to rust from the inside out....
03-01-2009 03:04 PM
CQNRQY
Copper brake Lines

It's intteresting to read everyones ideas.
Goes to show how ideas change thruout the world.
Here in Canada it is illegal to use copper lines (They will not pass a safety inspection that way) I like the idea of copper not rusting Because any rust and or flaking on our lines will also result in failing a safety inspection.
I wounder if Denmark uses a different type of copper line especially for brake line application? Is it of a harder compound/wall thickness?
When I went to trade school they told us that the copper lines would swell and eventually fail. ( If I'm not mistaken army Jeeps Vehicles used copper right into the late 1970's.) I remember installing some raider units on 6 wheel drive trucks and couldn't believe they had copper lines. Assumed it was a special army issue.
03-01-2009 02:33 PM
westmus
Quote:
Originally Posted by poncho62
Copper is too soft...won't withstand the pressure.
... Copper brake lines are nearly the only thing used as replacement brake lines here in Scandinavian! They actually lives much longere than the stock steel ones. Our safety inspections (testing the cars every 24 month) don't allow the cars to drive on the streets if the steel lines have any rust at all, so they are replaced by copper lines. I never heard about anybody replacing the copper lines again. They are still fine when the cars goes to the junk yard.

...this are copper lines ment to be used as brake line, all part shops here have them. It vil be very difficult finding steel line here.........
03-01-2009 11:53 AM
MARTINSR Ivo, in your position your best option may be a combination of a few ideas. I have made brake lines many times from premade straight tubes like this place has.. Click here

Straight pieces of pre-flared tubing of different lengths.


Of course you are going to have to know the diameter of the lines you need, that is VERY important.

But I have used these pre-flared tubes many times, get one close to the length you need and bend it to shape. There are adapters and junctions blocks in every form, thousands of different ones are available.

Brian
02-28-2009 02:53 PM
CQNRQY
Dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not a good idea to use copper it expands and will likely not with stand todays pressures
It may be an easy way to stop a leak but is a very dangerous sense of succurity.
If you like your car and people that ride in it buy a flaring tool and do it right
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