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08-11-2010 07:57 AM
89 Irocz
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well i believe i would find a bell housing and 350 all clutch parts and check the steering box mount on the frame get it running and you can Waite for a front shaft you can drive it with out it and the rear looks like a corporate 14 bolt i have in my shed along with a 8 lug 44 and a 456 4 speed and a 205 t case waiting for a good jeep tub you can get a 8 lug dana 44 front but you'll have to have gears to make it match the rear and 2 new wheels and swap out the tires then they could be rotated and will only need one spare again all jmo dose look like a great candidate for an awesome off road truck
08-09-2010 12:48 AM
CokeZero Turns out the tranny is a GM MUNCIE 4 SPEED Transmission. and the tcase is a np203
08-07-2010 09:25 AM
CokeZero lol, alright
08-07-2010 06:57 AM
adantessr
Quote:
Originally Posted by CokeZero
Is there anywhere to buy the front driveshaft online? if I buy used how much is a reasonable price? Also i can just throw a 350 in and stuff for the transmission, mate it to the tranny and I should be able to move it right?
As mentioned several times , that is not the factory transfer case or mounting location . Any , any , any drivelines will have to be custom builds , unless you are REAL lucky and something from a dodge would fit but I have no idea what year or model it would have to come out of . Remember , you have a Dr. Frankenstein creation .
08-06-2010 11:22 PM
CokeZero Is there anywhere to buy the front driveshaft online? if I buy used how much is a reasonable price? Also i can just throw a 350 in and stuff for the transmission, mate it to the tranny and I should be able to move it right?
08-06-2010 10:45 AM
Rickracer Looks like a Dana 44 front axle, Dana 60 rear, probably a 205 transfer case, not sure about the trans but it's obviously a HD 4 speed. Any small bock should fit in there, you'll need a bell housing, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate to match the trans. From the pic of the firewall up through the wheel well, it looks like it might have had a hydraulic clutch master....but that truck would have had mechanical linkage from the factory.
08-06-2010 10:20 AM
CokeZero I'm an R&R man. Just don't grasp the concept of how things work on unfamiliar things.

I guess the plan now is to try to sell it or find out what motor I can mate to the tranny thats in it, get a front shaft, mess with it for a month or so untill i get it sold.

Can any of you guys spot any parts worth pointing out when I goto sell it? like someone mention it might have a dana on it?
08-06-2010 09:21 AM
38mike
Mayday!!!!!

Man, I don't want to burst your bubble, but these guys giving you optimistic advice are correct technically -- that thing you've purchased could be the makings of a great specialty vehicle. BUT!!!!!!!!!!!! Your obvious lack of expertise says that you are in way over your head. If you can find a couple of rock-climbing or mud dragging or whatever kind of specialty truck folks that will help you with EVERY step of the build, then you could get this thing put together. Be prepared, though, for some big bucks being spent along the way. You didn't buy a pickup that needs a motor. You bought a monster.
Bail out now!!!! Go!! Go!!! GO!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck.
08-06-2010 08:58 AM
Rickracer Looking at all the pics, and the video again, that looks like a pretty good start for a mud truck or rock crawler, I'd put the motor in with a fresh clutch and stick a front driveshaft in it and go. You might want to get some real lift springs and/or shackles in the rear and ditch the blocks on both ends, you REALLY don't want blocks up front. That thing definitely has some potential though.
08-05-2010 11:27 PM
CokeZero here are the pics.

Front Diff


Rear Diff


Rear Driveshaft


Rear of front diff


Rear of tcase


Side of tcase


Tcase


Tcase2


Tcase 3


Tranny


Tranny 2




I dunno if these pics help anything, but I tried taking pics of what I thought would help you guys help me figure it out lol.
08-05-2010 07:46 PM
ericnova72 Why not just keep the 4-speed and get a bellhousing and clutch set-up for the small block you intend to put in?? The money you would spend on an automatic trans and converter will buy the clutch parts you need. Seems like the simplest route

The stick trans is practically bulletproof and already hooked to the T-case.

I have to say the truck looks like a real pile of half azzed thrown together junk if you ask me....3/4-1 ton rear...1/2 ton front...lift blocks everywhere....poorly mounted shocks...not enough shock for tires that big...tons of little parts missing... A guy really into lifted 4x4's with fab skills could make something of it but it isn't for a rookie without help from a 4x4 club, or someone familiar with turning wrenches.

I'd definately want the T-case looked at by someone familiar with them, I see the PTO cover is missing from it...someone took it off for some reason - maybe to look at damage inside of it??
08-05-2010 12:49 PM
CokeZero panama city, I'm running late today, I'll try to grab the pics on my way to work in a min then post them tonight when i get back off.
08-05-2010 06:43 AM
Rickracer Where at in Florida? I might know some guys that can help scare up the stuff you'll need...
08-05-2010 06:36 AM
adantessr
Quote:
Originally Posted by adantessr
6 lug vs 8 lug........Six lug is from a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck. An eight lug comes from a 1 or 1 1/2 ton truck. So two different rides is the point. So no rotating the tires on this bad boy. You now need to find out if the front gear ratio is the same as the rear, if they are different you have another BIG expense.
To expound on that : you MUST have the same exact ratio in both differentials and also run the exact same height tires on both axles or else you will rip out u-joints and/or axles . Yes you could run a chevy engine and trans since you will have to have a custom driveline made anyway if you want to just stick with the divorced transfer case . It would be better than trying to set it up to run 2wd temporarily . BTW quick way to check if the ratios are the same : Make sure all tires are aired up , then make a mark on the driveline yokes on both differentials with a reference mark on the diffs , then roll the truck , (not jacked up) exactly one full turn of the tires while someone watches the marks and counts the revolutions of the driveline yokes . Both marks must match and you will have a good estimate of axle ratio . The marks will not end up at the reference marks but may be for example 4 full turns plus a half turn which would probably be 4.56 ratio , or 4 full turns plus 7/8 of a turn would be 4.88 ratio . You get the idea. Let us know what you find and decide . I'm curious how this plays out .
Just wondering . Have you looked inside the cab to make sure it is not gutted ?
08-05-2010 06:32 AM
adantessr 6 lug vs 8 lug........Six lug is from a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck. An eight lug comes from a 1 or 1 1/2 ton truck. So two different rides is the point. So no rotating the tires on this bad boy. You now need to find out if the front gear ratio is the same as the rear, if they are different you have another BIG expense.
To expound on that : you MUST have the same exact ratio in both differentials and also run the exact same height tires on both axles or else you will rip out u-joints and/or axles . Yes you could run a chevy engine and trans since you will have to have a custom driveline made anyway if you want to just stick with the divorced transfer case . It would be better than trying to set it up to run 2wd temporarily . BTW quick way to check if the ratios are the same : Make sure all tires are aired up , then make a mark on the driveline yokes on both differentials with a reference mark on the diffs , then roll the truck , (not jacked up) exactly one full turn of the tires while someone watches the marks and counts the revolutions of the driveline yokes . Both marks must match and you will have a good estimate of axle ratio . The marks will not end up at the reference marks but may be for example 4 full turns plus a half turn which would probably be 4.56 ratio , or 4 full turns plus 7/8 of a turn would be 4.88 ratio . You get the idea. Let us know what you find and decide . I'm curious how this plays out .
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