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Powercraft Steering and Brakes in Vista Ca.

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#1 ·
Anyone ever deal with these guys? I’m just trying to see if I’m getting jerked around. I met up with Andrew (I guess he is the go to guy there) at the Spring Carlisle and he told me he would build me a steering box for my Tbird and he should get it out to me in two to three weeks. Well, it’s been over three months and he supposedly sent it out twice. Once back in June that he claims must have gotten lost because he can’t seem to locate it and the second about a week and a half ago. After several calls he finally gave me a tracking number. I went to the UPS site to track my package but the tracking number comes up as invalid. I called him back and he claims it works for him and I should receive it on Wednesday (tomorrow). I don’t mind that it took so long :drunk: but I don’t have a good feeling about it coming in tomorrow. :pain:

Has anybody ever dealt with this company and is Andrew a trustworthy guy?
 
#77 ·
I talked with the B.A.R. today and they said Andrew is working in a gray area. It depends on what percentage of wholesale to retail business he does. After explaining my problem, the guy I spoke with said the B.A.R. might want to look at his records to determine the percentages of his customers. I said he does a lot of retail sales over the Internet and at car shows. Looks like Andrew may get a visit again. I was told it sounds like Andrew is walking a very fine line and seems to know how far he can go before stepping over that line. I also asked what would happen if one of his so-called rebuilds failed while someone was driving a car and caused an accident. Andrew would be liable for any damages or injuries. This guy is not only a cheat, but also doesn't give a d**n about the safety of his customers and others on the road. I am going to continue to find his customers and let them know how he operates. There are other bulletin boards dealing with parts suppliers and rebuilders that I am going to locate and post on. He will wish he had paid what he owes me and never allowed this to get as far as it has.
 
#78 ·
powerrodsmike said:
You might want to call these guys. http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARResources/04_Miscellaneous/Consumers/Regarding_Complaints.html
You are a California resident, and you were sold a rebuilt part by a California based company that I believe needs to be registered with the BAR...They do get peoples money back in cases like this, that are not easily resolved.

Andrew said he does not need to be registered, I'd be curious to see what the B.A.R. says about it.
Seems like very sound advice to me. The incredulous part of all this IMHO is that it's all over less than $200!!!

I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could justify risking a "business" and one's own FREEDOM over that amount of cash- principals be damned. (Ever heard of the concept that the 'customer is always right'?)

A real businessman knows that things are not always going to go the way one wants, it's a part of the cost of doing business for cripes sake! The sane thing to do, is to either give the customer the promised value for his money, or refund the money if that cannot (for whatever reason) be accomplished.

Does this mean that you have to be a punching bag for every disgruntled customer? Of course not! But there are times when you have to concede the issue, cut your freaking losses and move on!

BUT if you promise something, you HAVE to deliver on that promise, of forfeit your reputation- it's as simple as that.
 
#79 ·
I am pressing this issue, not only for myself, but for anyone else that has been ripped off by Andrew. The money is not going to change my life any, but the matter of principle is what keeps me on his case. I will not let up until after he concedes. I am retired and have plenty of time to make his life miserable. Look at how he treats his customers. Lies, poor workmanship, excuses and no work ethics. I often wonder if his father knows what he is doing to the business, since it was so well run and liked before Andrew took over.
 
#81 ·
I talked to an attorney this afternoon. She looked over all my information and told me I had a good case against Andrew for fraud. I asked about her fees and she said if what I have is all correct, Andrew will end up paying all my costs as well as money for all my aggravation and travel expenses back and forth to Temecula once we win. So, it looks like Andrew will get his wishes. He stated he would rather pay more money to an attorney than what he owes me to prove a point. I guess if you can afford to be an a**hole, then let's see how it goes.
Andrew.....get out your checkbook!!! Will keep you all posted as things move along. And this guy thinks he is a businessman.
Oh, I also posted on WebRodder Forum and have already had a couple of replies so far.
 
#86 ·
Not a word from Andrew. He knows he is wrong and is afraid he makes himself look worse every time he posts. He has let everyone know what kind of businessman he is, or should I say lack of being a business person. I have been working on this and have talked to the Riverside sheriff's department and the district attorney's office. The sheriff's department is going to look into his business and if there is enough evidence, they will press charges for fraud and false use of customers credit cards. I have given them a copy of all the posts on Hot Rodders Bulletin Board. They may want to contact anyone on here that has been ripped of by Andrew. Also have an attorney helping to guide me. It doesn't matter to me because every bit of money I spend is added to his amount owed. His judgment is growing everyday and as I posted before, I WILL get my money from him. I am making up flyers with copies of the court judgment included to hand out at any car shows I attend. He could have saved himself a lot of money, but he must have $$$ to throw away. Sometimes smart a**es think they can get away with whatever they want, but usually it all comes back to them.
 
#90 ·
Have not heard of anyone on here that has been satisfied. Do know one person in the area that caught Andrew at the Pomona swap meet and did get his money. It was a either pay up or get the s**t knocked out of you situation. His day is coming and it will cost him a lot more than the $185.00 he could have settled for when this all began.
 
#92 ·
I was going to go to the swap meet last Sunday and see if he was there, but attorney suggested I don't go. She said he might call for help and I could end up at the short end of the stick. He is not the brightest business man, but he probably hangs with a bunch of other trouble makers that enjoy ganging up on people. I'll let the attorney handle this. That is why I am paying her.
 
#94 ·
Since they have not posted that they were satisfied, I have to presume they got screwed. Some of them live too far away to get as involved in trying to settle. If they live near Carlisle, then how are they going to fight back. That is why Andrew goes to the distant shows because he knows he can lie to the people and not worry about having them go after him. He has proven himself on this board by promising and not delivering.
 
#97 · (Edited by Moderator)
Favian

Hello.Im favian.To whomever may be concerned that I am running a scam with powercraft.I am not.I used to help sell parts for andrew from vista CA in the past with helping create posts on craigslist ebay etc.I work for everyday for a shop and salvage yard in chicago.Plus I do work for family and neighbors on my free time but never taken advantage of any customers that have ordered parts from me personally.I have my name to respect and my courtesy and respect for my customers.I cannot speak for anyone else and I apologize for any inconvenience that may have occurred to you.Any questions feel free to call me ********* favian from chicago.Thank you and have a good day
 
#98 ·
Sorry Favian..If you are in business you can't post your phone number here...If you do have some information that might help Ted Lohry and his case against Powercraft, please use our private messaging system to contact him.

later, mikey
 
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