|09-19-2010 07:16 AM|
LOL, I'm an expert ....at screwing up....I too like SS urethane with urethane clear....but only with solid colors ...but Like I said before I didnt even know that you could get a high quality SS metalic ...and candies and candy effects take long enough using bases ....Plus a lot of people want it but very few want to pay for all that extra work..
The hot rod culture around here is pretty lame...thats one of the things I miss most about Fla.,,,you cant drive 10-15 min.without seeing a nice car drive by and thats on the way to work...
|09-18-2010 11:47 AM|
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against basecoat.
It's all I use in my daily collision repairs.
I love basecoat, it's definetly the easiest one to use.
And it does look great.
I painted cars with lacquer in the 1970's,
then in the 1980's I switched to enamel.
I used clear with both of them at times, other times not.
I went to basecoat in 1990 and have been useing it since.
I have probably screwed up every combination you can think up.
I'm not an expert, but I learn (most times)
For customer cars, it's always basecoat.
I screw it up less often.
But for my own, I really like the way the urethane looked
and holds up.
|09-18-2010 07:52 AM|
The first pic is the point where it was sold.The hockey stripe wasnt even painted on yet...
second one is one of my favorites it looks like the hood has scoops but its the filters in the ceiling of the booth....it does give me ideas for the hood on the 68 I'm doing...
the others show how hard it is to get a good pics when you have an old POS camera and dont know what your doing .....They never give it justice,,,and you cant see depth...Plus look how ugly I look ,I'm really quite handsome....
and have the body of a GOD.......Budda....
|09-18-2010 07:38 AM|
|deadbodyman||Heres the last car I did using BC/CC its solid black (not metalic) with an inter mix (black base mixed with clear) making a transparent middle coat) then two coats of SPI clear .... after all it dried I sanded it all down and let it sit a week then applied two more coats of clear..Sorry no pics I sold the car before it was done and had to rush finishing it up I never even drove it... but pics cant show the depth ...keep in mind these pics only show what it looked like before I sanded it and recleared it...the paint job sold the car. before it was finished...|
|09-18-2010 07:17 AM|
In over view sure you can do an inter mix with a SS paint but why would anyone want too if you can get better results in half the time???
|09-17-2010 04:16 PM|
My SS paint.
The picture doesn't do it justice.
|09-17-2010 04:09 PM|
control so I sprayed it like a basecoat knowing the clear
would give the gloss back. Made it much easier to control.
Kirker even has an additive just for that, but I didn't use it.
Basecoat is opaque, it covers in just a few coats.
You don't see through it.
The SS I used took about 12 coats to cover, why?,
Because it's very transparent (it's clear with a color added basically).
It gives a candy look because of the transparent color coats,
that's why candy has more depth, that's why my single stage has
more depth. Basecoat can't do that. Not even close.
Barry did not recommend clearcoating single stage,
he only recommended the procedure on how to.
Many restoration shops in the US use single stage with a
clear coat. And their reason is the color and depth.
You'd be surprised at how many show cars are done that way
and you didn't even know it.
Barry: According to the National Forrestry Agency of the US,
trees are growing more each year than the harvest rate.
At this rate we'll be over run with trees in just a few years (LOL)
So use more paper.
|09-16-2010 03:14 PM|
|shine||jc clark gave him the right answer before it became a zoo. go ahead and dump it .|
|09-16-2010 03:02 PM|
|crashtech||Too bad the irrelevant stuff could not be edited out, I would edit mine out if I could. I apologize for my role in the fiasco.|
|09-16-2010 10:55 AM|
Well guys shall I dump or close this thread..?? let me know..
|09-16-2010 09:32 AM|
Both point sides are right on certain things, one way does not fit all and the poor guy that posted the question, was spammed right off, so I'm sure he is just scratching his head at this point, in pure confusion.
Thread is just not worth anything now as too much bull posted.
|09-16-2010 08:22 AM|
Your a great guy and have many personal friends...anyone thats ever met you or talked to you on the phone (me included) Thats a lot of people..If I'm wrong about this SS metallic just say so, I can handle it...from you..and might even give it some consideration...I didnt even know anyone made a good quality SS metallic paint...heck I've been wrong once or twice before so have you ...but I still gotta see it to believe it ....it seems to defiy the laws of gravity...and makes no sence to me.
I dont know if you've noticed but I'm a tree hugger too.you going to the big meeting this weekend???
|09-16-2010 07:47 AM|
OK ,so if you can get good results with it you must know something I dont.You stated you have to know how to suspend the metallics (automotive painting 101) so with all my experiance 35yrs of painting and I cant do it ,Your going to recomend it to someone just starting out??? I agree with you on one thing Shine ,this thread is turning into BS...and is starting to sound like a pissing contest...but the fact is I've never seen a SS metalilic look "great" and I simply wont believe it unless I see it up close and personal...none of the painters I've ever met in 35 yrs will agree either...As far as I know the only shops that use SS metallics are the Econo types where a full paint job costs 275.00...wanna explain to these guys how you do it or just let them see for themselves ???
It would be wise to try ALL these styles on a test panel like an old hood or something so you guys can see what works best for you....
|09-16-2010 07:30 AM|
I think you misunderstood something ..or he misunderstood you...no one with any experience would say to do that unless they were trying to get you of the phone its about the biggest waste of time there is
Copy and paste from Deadbodyman.
Well Jim, is a personal friend, so I really doubt, I would give him bad advice to get rid of him.
Keep me out of this post please, I'm a tree hugger and hate the wasteful use of paper as it kills trees.
|09-16-2010 07:16 AM|
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