|09-22-2010 07:30 AM|
new paints are BAD
new low VOC paints made the situation worse. In the old days the fumes did not cause as much damage to you, \THEY WERE STILL DANGEROUS. a little bit of the fumes would evaporate out of your lungs, when you breathed. they would still make you dizzy, cause liver damage. etc.
|09-22-2010 07:18 AM|
|shine||i use bullard hoods. i cant stand the mask at all. hoods are cheap and disposable. you get cool air at your neck which helps keep you cool. i can wear my walkman under it and listen to tunes while i paint.|
|09-21-2010 09:18 PM|
|09-21-2010 10:00 AM|
With inadequate airflow even new activated carbon filters will quickly become saturated and useless. You have inhaled dangerous levels of isocyanate's and you need to seek medical attention. That stuff will catalyze in your lungs.
|09-21-2010 12:12 AM|
That hobby air can be found at Autobodystore.com click here
|09-20-2010 10:36 PM|
Years ago when I decided to do my own painting I invested in a Hobby Air pressurized fresh air system. Cost was about what I would spend on one inexpensive paint job (under $400) and was cheap insurance. Although it doesn't protect your skin it sure protects your lungs.
|09-20-2010 06:48 PM|
Don't be afraid of spraying! Just be smart about it.
Your body absorbs isocyanates... but never can get rid of them. One day your throat or tongue will swell up. That means you can't take any more. I have had a few friends have this happen. Oe swithced to lacquer... and paints only classic cars. another bought a full suit, and still paints part time.
I have been painting cars since I was 15, in 1964... painting full time since '86.... an still haven't had "the reaction" yet. I DO use a remote air mask, so I am not trying to filter anything out of the air, because it's not even there. Why take a chance?
|09-20-2010 06:38 PM|
|09-20-2010 05:47 PM|
Gotta watch out for clears, some have additives that act like a magnet towards moisture. (ex. Your eyes, mouth, lungs)
After using a forced air flow full face mask over normal cartige masks, the difference is unbeatable. You get the cool fresh air across your face that cuts down on sweat in your eyes, prevents fog on your glasses and generally keeps you fume free if you have a good seal.
|09-20-2010 05:44 PM|
|swvalcon||charcoal fillers like 3-m are good for 40 hrs of use. Thats if you leave them in the open . Thats why they tell you to put them in a air tight container when not in use. Extends the life of mask|
|09-20-2010 04:35 PM|
Charcoal filters will degrade when exposed to oxygen - period.
Thats why if you had a business, by law, you have to store your respirators in a sealed container when not in use. OSHA can fine up to 10k if they find a respirator laying out improperly.
I switched years ago to a supplied air system...after you add up all the costs for cartridge, and pre-filter replacements and given the superiority and SAFETY of having a dedicated air supply - its priceless
If you have to use a cartidge based respirator, a properly fitted full face design is something like 400-500x better protection than a 1/2 face model.
|09-20-2010 04:11 PM|
|V8 Super Beetle||
What little spraying I have done I make sure to do it with the garage door wide open. I used 5 rolls of screen material, $5 at Lowes, and some duct tape to cover the opening of the garage and to help keep bugs out. It possibly helps catch overspray as well. Seems to work well.
|09-20-2010 03:47 PM|
|V8 Super Beetle||
|09-20-2010 03:05 PM|
|adantessr||Go see a doctor , now ! I painted one coat of paint with the wrong cartridges that a buddy gave me and I was alergic to any aerosol (even hairspray) for 15 years afterwards . This paining business is serious business . Let us know what the doctor says . You may need to call the poison control center . I'd bring the MSDS sheets with me to the doctor, also|
|09-20-2010 02:41 PM|
don't worry , you'll be ok .. all a doctor will do is say don't do it again or get a better mask etc. etc ..
doctors are way over rated , besides you said you already have common sence and that's not common.
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