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01-27-2013 02:43 PM
DeeW
1941-42 Ford Frames

I am also looking for frame dimensions but for a 1941 Ford 1/2 ton pickup truck. I am building my own frame and need to know the OEM for the rear axle/diff unit. I am going to run a 48" straight axle from Speedway so I want a proper flange to flange measurement for the rear. Anybody have any info, would be greatly appreciated.
02-17-2011 08:48 PM
35terraplane
1941-42 frame

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erix
Any suggestions for a restorers 1941-42 forum?
I don't have the name of the sites, but you could try early V-8, or early ford club, they should have something on them.

Bob
02-17-2011 07:17 PM
Erix
Quote:
Originally Posted by 35terraplane
Erix You must not of got any help on a restorers forum or you didn't go there. I don't think many street rodder have what you are looking for, but you get a "A" for effort.

Bob
Any suggestions for a restorers 1941-42 forum?
02-17-2011 06:19 PM
68NovaSS Moving this to the suspension forum for now, it's gone into left field from the original OP's question, turning more into a general discussion.
02-17-2011 05:07 PM
35terraplane
41-42 ford frames

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erix
I am bringing this back up to the top in hopes someone will post the frame dimensions diagram for the 1941 and 1942 Ford cars so we (and I) can see the differences? Thanks!

Erix
Erix You must not of got any help on a restorers forum or you didn't go there. I don't think many street rodder have what you are looking for, but you get a "A" for effort.

Bob
02-17-2011 11:34 AM
Erix
1941 and 1942 Frame

I am bringing this back up to the top in hopes someone will post the frame dimensions diagram for the 1941 and 1942 Ford cars so we (and I) can see the differences? Thanks!

Erix
01-20-2011 07:53 AM
Erix Thanks for the heads up but at the HET website (and another that has the same books online), there isn't a shop manual that has the frame dimensions online but only the frame part numbers. Haven't asked yet otherwise.

No, won't be going for the minor makes pre war. If I was to include EVEY car manufacturer then I would both go nuts and broke keeping up the website. There were literally hundreds of auto manufacturers with many going out of business by 1930.

So, I focused on just cars that had X Frame bracing. That includes US cars made basically between 1932-1964. That is a task in itself and not all manufacturers used the X-Frame or not for very long but a majority did during that time span.

If anyone has manuals, bulletins, books that show frames with dimensions from the 1930s and early 1940s, please let me know. Always looking for help with scans for the project. Thanks!


Erix
01-19-2011 11:41 AM
OneMoreTime I have gotten away from the restoration/concours kind of cars as I have found that there are enough differences from running changes and production tolerances to just drive a fellow nuts. It may be a commendable effort to try and be exact but I am not sure one can get there from here.

just what I have found..

Sam
01-19-2011 10:28 AM
35terraplane
1941 frame

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erix
Bob,

You make many valid points here. I was drawn to the Hot Rodders board because of a Google Search for the 1941 frame in which someone posted a question or project some time ago. With Google these days, it seems like forum posts are listed on their search almost immediately. I bet my post now will be available to search on Google within the hour.

But not to worry, my project does go beyond Ford and Chevy... in fact, I have "every" manufacturer from 1946-on and several makes pre war back to the early 1930's, including Hudson. I am still seeking the 1932-1933 Hudson and Essex models diagrams right now to finish the complete manufacturer's diagrams.

Thanks for understanding.

I have posted the same at the H.A.M.B. site to no avail so far though.

Erix
Erix Get a hold of the Hudson, Essex, Terraplane, club they would have all you need on the 1932-1933 Essex Terraplane. !933 was the last year with Essex in the name or being a car, It then became the Terraplane.

Your first question is on Google search. Good luck to you, you have quite a trip ahead of you,I'm sure that you will find that many of these cars, as a make have all this info in a club, I think you will be one of the few that have a big group of them all together, and rare cars well if you wanted to get into them, it could be a lifetime hobby or more, many blacksmiths, or bike makers of the day built one or two cars. Many towns across the US had car companies spring up, many carriage makers made cars, or just bodies for other companies. So you could keep busy for some time. Many I would not waste my time on, it would be neat to find out about the cars, but when only one or two were built, your time wouldn't be well spent.

Here is one for you, the Pan, I will even help you they were made in St. Cloud MN. Good luck and have a fun trip, learn as much as you can on each car, besides the frame, they will never make them again, those cars had class they weren't the cookie cutter cars that we have today.
01-19-2011 08:01 AM
Erix Bob,

You make many valid points here. I was drawn to the Hot Rodders board because of a Google Search for the 1941 frame in which someone posted a question or project some time ago. With Google these days, it seems like forum posts are listed on their search almost immediately. I bet my post now will be available to search on Google within the hour.

But not to worry, my project does go beyond Ford and Chevy... in fact, I have "every" manufacturer from 1946-on and several makes pre war back to the early 1930's, including Hudson. I am still seeking the 1932-1933 Hudson and Essex models diagrams right now to finish the complete manufacturer's diagrams.

Thanks for understanding.

I have posted the same at the H.A.M.B. site to no avail so far though.

Erix

Quote:
Originally Posted by 35terraplane
Erix Yours is a noble task, but it is one that people can find for the Ford and GM cars, I found two manuals on fords from 1932 to 1941, and from 1942 to 1948 that said they had all the frame diagrams for each year.
The reason I answered like I did, is I'm a street rodder, I don't think about restoring a car when someone would ask about two frames, I don't think about points because the frame isn't spot on, street rodders build the frames they need or rebuild them to fit their needs. But if you are into restoring cars, I would bet if you went to a Ford or GM forum, not that I want you to leave here, but if you would ask that on a genie forum, you would have an answer pretty quick. I tried to call a friend of mine that has 3 41 fords he restored and I'm sure he could tell you more about the frame than I, but no answer. I called a couple of guys in our club that are Ford guys like me, they answered like I did. So it is all in who you ask. If it were me and you wanted to make a list of frames with dimensions I would do anything but Ford or GM. Hudson's would be a good one, They had the Essex, Terraplane. there were a lot of different cars made back then, most would be hard to find info. on.
I just think you asked the right question in the wrong place. I'm sure there are people on here that would have what you want, but most of us are street rodders and we look at a frame as weather it will flex when we but a blown Hemi in it, not if it is the exact frame for that car. our points count on the drag strip not at a show, when we go to a show, they judge the frame on how nice it is built and how nice it looks, no more, no less. Good luck again yours is a noble effort, you will gain a lot of knowledge on different cars. This is JMHO.

Bob
01-18-2011 04:54 PM
35terraplane
1941 frame

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erix
Nope, Wescott doesn't have any plans to add any diagrams later that 1940 anytime soon.

For people who desire to use customized frames or something that "will fit", I can see your point. But for those who restore and seek points in competition, it makes a difference to have the correct frame under the car.

But many times you can't just use something that has a similar wheelbase as there would be too many alterations involved.

I felt my question was pretty straight forward and generic... I asked a question about the different frames and if someone could post the diagrams from the Ford Shop manuals so I (and others) could see the difference between 1941-1942. The reason for the use didn't seem relevant at the time.

Erix
Erix Yours is a noble task, but it is one that people can find for the Ford and GM cars, I found two manuals on fords from 1932 to 1941, and from 1942 to 1948 that said they had all the frame diagrams for each year.
The reason I answered like I did, is I'm a street rodder, I don't think about restoring a car when someone would ask about two frames, I don't think about points because the frame isn't spot on, street rodders build the frames they need or rebuild them to fit their needs. But if you are into restoring cars, I would bet if you went to a Ford or GM forum, not that I want you to leave here, but if you would ask that on a genie forum, you would have an answer pretty quick. I tried to call a friend of mine that has 3 41 fords he restored and I'm sure he could tell you more about the frame than I, but no answer. I called a couple of guys in our club that are Ford guys like me, they answered like I did. So it is all in who you ask. If it were me and you wanted to make a list of frames with dimensions I would do anything but Ford or GM. Hudson's would be a good one, They had the Essex, Terraplane. there were a lot of different cars made back then, most would be hard to find info. on.
I just think you asked the right question in the wrong place. I'm sure there are people on here that would have what you want, but most of us are street rodders and we look at a frame as weather it will flex when we but a blown Hemi in it, not if it is the exact frame for that car. our points count on the drag strip not at a show, when we go to a show, they judge the frame on how nice it is built and how nice it looks, no more, no less. Good luck again yours is a noble effort, you will gain a lot of knowledge on different cars. This is JMHO.

Bob
01-18-2011 03:25 PM
Erix Nope, Wescott doesn't have any plans to add any diagrams later that 1940 anytime soon.

For people who desire to use customized frames or something that "will fit", I can see your point. But for those who restore and seek points in competition, it makes a difference to have the correct frame under the car.

But many times you can't just use something that has a similar wheelbase as there would be too many alterations involved.

I felt my question was pretty straight forward and generic... I asked a question about the different frames and if someone could post the diagrams from the Ford Shop manuals so I (and others) could see the difference between 1941-1942. The reason for the use didn't seem relevant at the time.

Erix



Quote:
Originally Posted by 35terraplane
I wish you would have said what you were doing, as far as the bodies going on the frames, it will work just as it I said, But if you want every little change, go to this site. they have the fords from 1926 to 1940 in cars and 1941 in p/us which are the same as the cars. they do not list the 41 , but if you call Wesscotts I think they will help you, or you can call the Ford museum, they would tell you, I think.
When you post a question, make sure you have everything in it, I don't know every dimension on all the frames, but I do know what would work with what. That's what I was going to ask you this morning, is what you were doing.

Bob

http://www.wescottsauto.com/Tech/frame_specs.html#howto
01-18-2011 11:43 AM
35terraplane
1941 frame dimensions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erix
It's been a passion for me and hope others will appreciate the efforts.

Do you have any shop manuals with frame charts with dimensions - especially cars from the 1930s?

Thanks!
Erix
I wish you would have said what you were doing, as far as the bodies going on the frames, it will work just as it I said, But if you want every little change, go to this site. they have the fords from 1926 to 1940 in cars and 1941 in p/us which are the same as the cars. they do not list the 41 , but if you call Wesscotts I think they will help you, or you can call the Ford museum, they would tell you, I think.
When you post a question, make sure you have everything in it, I don't know every dimension on all the frames, but I do know what would work with what. That's what I was going to ask you this morning, is what you were doing.

Bob

http://www.wescottsauto.com/Tech/frame_specs.html#howto
01-18-2011 08:53 AM
Erix It's been a passion for me and hope others will appreciate the efforts.

Do you have any shop manuals with frame charts with dimensions - especially cars from the 1930s?

Thanks!
Erix


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Originally Posted by matts37chev
wow, thanks for trying to help the car community
01-18-2011 08:37 AM
matts37chev wow, thanks for trying to help the car community
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