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05-28-2011 11:31 PM
mitmaks I'd stay away from anything non HVLP. Auto paint is too expensive these days just to blow it out the fan (literally)
05-28-2011 09:20 PM
chas350
Quote:
Originally Posted by colormecrazy
And I appreciate my Iwata!

Me too!
05-28-2011 02:55 PM
colormecrazy
Quote:
Originally Posted by showtime1k
damn, these iwatas seem to appreciate
And I appreciate my Iwata!
05-28-2011 02:47 PM
showtime1k damn, these iwatas seem to appreciate
05-28-2011 11:14 AM
colormecrazy Do a simple search online. You can buy an Iwata from several online suppliers.
05-28-2011 10:51 AM
chas350
Quote:
Originally Posted by showtime1k
ok, where do you get the iwata at 360?
showtime, check the date on the post...... in 2006 things were cheaper
05-28-2011 07:22 AM
showtime1k
Quote:
Originally Posted by starquest
Ok, I have the cash to buy a new spray gun. I'm trying to decide on either the Devilbiss GFG-670 Plus or the Iwata LPH-400. Pros and Cons for each:

Devil:
1. Comes with three tips (not just a choice of one or another, but actually comes with all)
2. Highly recommended by people on this board as well as other autobody boards.
3. Fairly inexpensive, $279 shipped.
4. Not HVLP - could care less, I'm a hobbiest.
5. Also comes with a few minor gadgets like a regulator and such (I know this is minor but still you get more for the money).

Iwata:
1. Several tip suggestions but you only choose one type (I'd probably go 1.4)
2. Very Very Very highly recommended on here as well as other boards.
3. Lighter weight.
4. HVLP
5. More money but still not too much; $360 plus shipping.


Keep in mind that I'm an inexperienced painter who is restoring his first car. So I'm learning as I go but I want a pretty good reliable piece of equipment to provide good results as I gain experience. I hope to restore many more cars in my lifetime. If I buy the Devil, I will have enough cash to pick up an inexpensive touch up gun as well (I was just looking at a Sharpe Finex, comments?). If I buy the Iwata, I'll be strapped for cash for a little while which may hold off my restoration project for a bit as a result.

So what do you think? I'm hoping to make a decision this week.

BTW I run a Quincy 60 gallon, true 5hp compressor with approximately 16 cfm at 175psi. So air should not be a problem with either gun. I do have cooling piping with several traps and a decent filter system. I run large fittings, etc.

Thanks,
Kevin
ok, where do you get the iwata at 360?
10-18-2006 01:07 AM
great adventure The best thing or trick I discovered from sata rp digital 2
that when you spray with the above mentioned gun it
give you the same feeling of your conventional spray gun
but with better and smooth finish... plus no orange peel,
no paint run and no need even for polishing???

I've got also sata hvlp minijet and dakor 2000 air brush
and this time I am going to buy sata hvlp 3000 1.3 for
base coat..

all the best
10-17-2006 10:44 PM
colormecrazy Remember, the more air pressure you use the more overspray you make and the more paint you use (more $$). Lower pressure and closer to the car add up to less material usage (less $$). Therefore, we should all try to use less air-pressure. Unless we have a paint company to our disposal.

Sorry, couldn't stop myself!

p.s. "an old dog " should give this trade up, if he can't learn new tricks!
10-17-2006 09:54 PM
BarryK Personally, I think the best guns made are the following.
Optima (hard to find, German)
Sata
Geo's
Iwata

Anyone of those guns are great but no one gun fits all.
You must take into consideration as the type of paint your using and most important how you paint.

Me, right wrong or indifferent I like higher air pressure and I hold the gun 4-6"
away and I move very fast.

For me the RP or Geo's work best on clears for large areas.
The Iwata works best for me on base along with the Optima.

Of course if you learn on one gun you will adjust your painting habits to fit that gun but its harder to teach an old dog new tricks..

No one gun is best for everyone but just buy a quality gun to fit your needs and your moving in the right direction.
10-17-2006 08:28 PM
colormecrazy My hand was/is (still use Sata for base) seated to the Sata handle also. I, like alot of painters, used Sata for many years. Shoot, my first gun was a Sata jetB in '87. It took several times using the Iwata before it felt comfortable. But, even when it was not "comfortable", it shot like a dream.
10-17-2006 01:24 AM
great adventure hi guys

I used to be conventional binks gun user and still like binks becuase
the above gun made me Good painter

but now I switched to sata rp digital 2 and I am very happy
with the painting finish and specially the clear coat!

I heard people saying that iwata is a great gun but my hand now
familiar or been sett-ed with sata.

I am now hvlp gun user and i am afraid to go back and use my old
conventional binks gun..
10-16-2006 09:00 PM
colormecrazy Dude, if your just a hobby painter, I suppose you go with cheap. But, I've had the local Akzo Nobel training center gun rack to my disposal and tried a plethora of guns. NO other gun on the market even competes with the Iwata LPH 400!! If you use one everyday you can definitely tell the difference. You can bla.. bla.. bla.. all you want about this "controversy", but, talk will not change fact!
10-16-2006 08:29 PM
x711 Barry, Bondo pretty much summed it up. He is right on the money with respect to how the lph-400 performs.

Looking closer at the actual engineering that went into that gun I can say without reserve that the Iwata engineers must have some serious cad modeling software to have come up with the atomization scheme that the wedge shaped tip produces. I can see it now.. The SATA guys are still scratching their heads saying ... W*F .. or I wonder what the german equiv of *** is .. lol

Nothing short of amazing.

While the $400 plus price tag may seem like alot to some folks, its really not
too bad if it will enable the painter to get great results right out of the gate.
One Job using that gun would pretty much pay for it. For the folks working out of their home garage reducing fog is a big deal. With the LPH-400 you get a tool that just works period.

The thing about refinishing a car is its a stepped process similar to a check of
list. Attention to detail has to be given to each step in the process. But in
saying that the real keys are the paint and the gun. If the gun is a el-chepo
then that expensive paint is going to be wasted and undue work will be added to the process which is a real time eater. Get a good gun and even your first go at refinish work will be a success !

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10-16-2006 06:29 PM
BarryK
Quote:
Originally Posted by x711
This thread is a little old. Since my previous post in this thread I have
purchased a Iwata LPH-400-144LV gun.

I am very impressed with it. I really like the fact that it uses less air typically
18psi for a full fan of 12" "gun 7" from the panel

The Iwata produces less overspray too.

All in all I believe that Iwata have earned the top dog spot above Sata when
it comes to refinishing gun technology.

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http://spi.forumup.org/viewtopic.php?t=613&mforum=spi

Read the above post also to confirm what Brian is saying also most important
read Matt's last post today I THINK #30.
It no doubt is worth the money!
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