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Yesterday 02:17 PM
Rodnit
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
Hi Troy......you finally getting some sunshine over there ....

I bought an used Saginaw 4 speed for the GTO yesterday. That was the only drivetrain component I was missing to make it a "yard driver"... It was cheap enough at $300 to justify the increase in overall value of the car. Makes a big difference if they will drive on a trailer or transport truck. Now I need to get back on it and get it ready.
Oh yeah! Although storms are floating around today. A lot of shows have been on Saturdays and haven't been getting rained out. A good thing...

I had a Saginaw 4 speed in my '68. It was alright. At least you haven't given up on the "basket case"........ Forge ahead!
07-29-2014 12:35 PM
Too Many Projects
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Originally Posted by Rodnit View Post
That makes it easy, I have 9"............

Thanks brickyard...........

Hi Mitch.......
Hi Troy......you finally getting some sunshine over there ....

I bought an used Saginaw 4 speed for the GTO yesterday. That was the only drivetrain component I was missing to make it a "yard driver"... It was cheap enough at $300 to justify the increase in overall value of the car. Makes a big difference if they will drive on a trailer or transport truck. Now I need to get back on it and get it ready.
07-29-2014 10:48 AM
Rodnit That makes it easy, I have 9"............

Thanks brickyard...........

Hi Mitch.......
07-29-2014 09:23 AM
Too Many Projects
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I got that info on line from the Street Beast website before they bit the dust, so I'm not sure what the prices included. My car has an 8.8 differential, which was the common rear end that they featured in the kit. I think the 9" was an upgrade. Not sure where the casting # would be on the housing, but most will agree that the 9" was considered a bit stronger than the 8.8. I've included photos of both (first two are 9" and the second is 8.8). The 8.8 had a 10 bolt cover on the back of the housing, and the 9" carrier had a front entry, where you could remove the entire carrier to work on.
At least that's an easily identifiable difference. Some manufacturers axle housing changes were so subtle as to need casting numbers.

My neighbors kit car has a 9". We still don't know who's kit it is.
07-29-2014 09:02 AM
brickyardboy
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Originally Posted by Rodnit View Post
Thanks for the info brickyard. I've never seen a parts breakdown or options list. The $18k total price, was that minus engine, tranny and wheels? I didn't go line by line. Was that a basic build, or an upgrade? What year was that price?

I see 8.8 rears were common on these builds. I did some research on mine and could swear it's a standard 9", looking at the ribs. What's the physical difference between an 8.8 and 9"? Where would the casting number and date code be to verify it's a standard 9"? It does have the hump......

Thanks! Rodnit
I got that info on line from the Street Beast website before they bit the dust, so I'm not sure what the prices included. My car has an 8.8 differential, which was the common rear end that they featured in the kit. I think the 9" was an upgrade. Not sure where the casting # would be on the housing, but most will agree that the 9" was considered a bit stronger than the 8.8. I've included photos of both (first two are 9" and the second is 8.8). The 8.8 had a 10 bolt cover on the back of the housing, and the 9" carrier had a front entry, where you could remove the entire carrier to work on.
07-29-2014 08:10 AM
Rodnit Thanks for the info brickyard. I've never seen a parts breakdown or options list. The $18k total price, was that minus engine, tranny and wheels? I didn't go line by line. Was that a basic build, or an upgrade? What year was that price?

I see 8.8 rears were common on these builds. I did some research on mine and could swear it's a standard 9", looking at the ribs. What's the physical difference between an 8.8 and 9"? Where would the casting number and date code be to verify it's a standard 9"? It does have the hump......

Thanks! Rodnit
07-28-2014 02:36 PM
brickyardboy Mike, I don't know if this will help you any, but here's Street Beast's parts and option list. It may assist you when looking over the parts that the seller has.
07-28-2014 10:39 AM
mikeb1
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Originally Posted by Rodnit View Post
Any updates Mike? Did you decide to buy it?


No change yet. I really want to make the correct decision. I am going over this week to take inventory on parts.
Thanks for asking. Will keep you updated.
07-28-2014 10:34 AM
Rodnit
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Originally Posted by mikeb1 View Post
I have the opportunity to purchase a 34 cmc project. Comes with "everything" needed to finish including interior kit, glass, and even an a/c kit. My question is, would it be worth completing? I'm sure it will have a few things missing when it comes time to out it together.
Tia for any help on the decision.
Any updates Mike? Did you decide to buy it?
07-26-2014 04:27 PM
snowraker
'33 vicky

I have a Vicky version, which was incomplete when I bought it. Luckily, I managed to get the critical parts before they closed their doors, but I am still missing interior stuff. The fiberglass body is well made, very sturdy. Having said all that, my project is on hold because my other project, a rat rod, is more fun to build. the Vicky is 90% done, but I would say it was a difficult build, especially all the body prep and repair that you have to do with fiberglass. Before you buy, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE PARTS!
07-26-2014 10:40 AM
35terraplane The one thing you have to remember, most repop or real 34 parts will not fit on the body, unless you make them fit. I put different front fenders on mine lot of glass work.

But if you spend the time you can make a nice car, one of the biggest things wrong with them is the grille insert, it is missing a bar on each side.

Bob
07-25-2014 08:39 PM
Rodnit
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Originally Posted by mikeb1 View Post
I get the whole moral issues with the company. I am trying to look past that and see the good that could come from me completing the car. I havnt gone through EVERYTHING that he has, but he says the only thing I will need to purchase is wiring, wheels, radiator, and drive shaft.
I have checked out ALL of Pete's videos (which I am grateful for). I think I can handle the build, and I am more comfortable with the body and paint work.
We will see what the future holds and if I get it, i am POSITIVE I will be leaning on you more educated builders.
Tia for any and all help.
No doubt there are better 'glass builds out there, but you'll need deep pockets too. There's no reason you can't build a quality CMC/Beast.

It sounds like you have a good handle on what's involved with the build, so there shouldn't any really big surprises. Especially since you viewed Pete's videos. There's plenty of guys to help you along the way who will be more than glad to lend their expertise.

If you go ahead with the build, post lots of pix......
07-25-2014 02:09 PM
mikeb1
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Originally Posted by Rodnit View Post
I see no-one is touching this question. I understand why. I'll give brief shot at it.

CMC/Street Beast is no longer in business. You can search Street Beast on this forum and read all about it. My take is, the car isn't so bad it's more the owner of the company who screwed over a lot of people. Basically receiving incomplete kits and the owner was taking the money and running. You can read for yourself.

I bought a Beast last year, completed, and am very happy. There's some tweaking I need to do. Gauges which are marginal at best and I want to go to coilovers in the rear to soften the ride. I currently have stiff coil springs.

Pete at Southwest Rod and Custom has 60+ vids on how to build the car. You may want to check them out:
1934-Ford-Streetbeasts-Fiberglass Kit Car-Introduction To Building It RiGHT! - YouTube
He's built many and is probably as close to an expert on the build as anyone out there. He goes thru some changes he's made to the build that is better than how the instructions(from what I hear are minimal) tell you to do it.

"Everything" is relative. Everything the current owner received, or, literally every part to do a complete build? And how would/does he know he has everything? I believe you can still get parts from Pete. Not 100% sure tho.

The build is nothing like buying a plastic model and following the instructions. Current building experience would be a huge plus constructing this car. I talked to a guy who bought his in the mid 90's and is still working on it. I think it became overwhelming. It runs and whatnot, but still needs paint and other work. He has $25k in it already. I guess depending on how you want the build to be, depends on how much money you'll have in it.

I like mine, I get plenty of positive comments, many thumbs up and waves going down the road. I guess if the price is right and you have the skills, go for it...

If you haven't already, check out this build:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/stre...ts-141968.html

Maybe others will give constructive opinions......



I get the whole moral issues with the company. I am trying to look past that and see the good that could come from me completing the car. I havnt gone through EVERYTHING that he has, but he says the only thing I will need to purchase is wiring, wheels, radiator, and drive shaft.
I have checked out ALL of Pete's videos (which I am grateful for). I think I can handle the build, and I am more comfortable with the body and paint work.
We will see what the future holds and if I get it, i am POSITIVE I will be leaning on you more educated builders.
Tia for any and all help.
07-25-2014 12:32 PM
alaskastreamin I own the fenderless CMC on page 7 of this thread. I've been around enough glass cars to spot a CMC or SB.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have waited for a better body to build. I am into fit and finish and these just don't have it.

I glassed in blocks to the window openings for the runner channels and fuzzies. The kit sent push on trim for these areas. Cheezy in my book and not right. I had to make my own door gaskets. Each door was different. The same went for the door panels. Had two patterns.

The trans tunnel was 2" off center also. I decided to just keep the outer shell and make my own firewall, floor, and wheel tubs to fit on a reproduction '34 frame. I paid $1300.00 for my body & frame initially from the PO.

It all depends on what you want out of your build.
07-25-2014 11:25 AM
Rodnit I see no-one is touching this question. I understand why. I'll give brief shot at it.

CMC/Street Beast is no longer in business. You can search Street Beast on this forum and read all about it. My take is, the car isn't so bad it's more the owner of the company who screwed over a lot of people. Basically receiving incomplete kits and the owner was taking the money and running. You can read for yourself.

I bought a Beast last year, completed, and am very happy. There's some tweaking I need to do. Gauges which are marginal at best and I want to go to coilovers in the rear to soften the ride. I currently have stiff coil springs.

Pete at Southwest Rod and Custom has 60+ vids on how to build the car. You may want to check them out:
He's built many and is probably as close to an expert on the build as anyone out there. He goes thru some changes he's made to the build that is better than how the instructions(from what I hear are minimal) tell you to do it.

"Everything" is relative. Everything the current owner received, or, literally every part to do a complete build? And how would/does he know he has everything? I believe you can still get parts from Pete. Not 100% sure tho.

The build is nothing like buying a plastic model and following the instructions. Current building experience would be a huge plus constructing this car. I talked to a guy who bought his in the mid 90's and is still working on it. I think it became overwhelming. It runs and whatnot, but still needs paint and other work. He has $25k in it already. I guess depending on how you want the build to be, depends on how much money you'll have in it.

I like mine, I get plenty of positive comments, many thumbs up and waves going down the road. I guess if the price is right and you have the skills, go for it...

If you haven't already, check out this build:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/stre...ts-141968.html

Maybe others will give constructive opinions......
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