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07-30-2011 08:27 AM
NEW INTERIORS
Quote:
Originally Posted by blwn31
Hey New Interiors, DO NOT BUY A MILLING MACHINE! It will top your list of most used tools in your garage/shop. I am using it all the stinking time. I totally dig making one off parts, just don't like the time it takes. I don't know about you, but I have barely began to scratch the surface of the capabilities of these machines and, I've had them for about 6 years now.

Keith

Well !!!! It's been on my want list for a while now.... My friend has a small one we use... Made the grill for my Roaster with it.. We had to remake the dash in my 41 willys,, It is indeed a fun machine to have... It will open a few more doors for me for sure..

As far as my lathe... I can make almost anything on it by now.. But Still just Scratching the surface also... Before I bought mine... I had to run to my friends house to make something,,, Now !!!! Just fire mine up..

I would have love to have gone to school for it..But !!! For not gone to school.. And being able to make things now... Well !!! I'm proud of myself...I should have bought a lathe 20years ago..
07-30-2011 02:39 AM
blwn31 Hey New Interiors, DO NOT BUY A MILLING MACHINE! It will top your list of most used tools in your garage/shop. I am using it all the stinking time. I totally dig making one off parts, just don't like the time it takes. I don't know about you, but I have barely began to scratch the surface of the capabilities of these machines and, I've had them for about 6 years now.

Keith
07-29-2011 11:28 PM
NEW INTERIORS
Quote:
Originally Posted by lt1silverhawk
Dang it Randy! Here I had my mind made up that I wouldn't buy a lathe and you had to go give me more ideas lol! Shifter knob, you say? Well, I'm sold!


Thanks again you guys!

Well !!! I just added the shift nob in there... Like I said.. The sky is the limit... You can make ''ANYTHING'' ...

Now !!! Do keep in mind... This can be a VERY VERY DANGEROUS MACHINE.. This by all means is not a toy... It WILL pull your arm off.... FAST !!!!


It is a nice machine to learn about..If I didn't want to build cars any longer... and sold everything... The lathe will not be sold...It's way to handy...


I built many car without one... But will not build any without it now..


The things I use the most at my shop is..

1.Lathe..
2.welding machine..
3.air compressor...
4.hand tools..
5.Grinders..
6.and More grinders..
7.Hand torch.. (use very little)
8.plasma torch..
9.press break..
10.plate roller...

I worked a very long time like a cave man doing what I do.. But now with the right tool's.. It make's things so much easier...

Again !!! yes you can build a hot rod with out a lathe.. The tool's I listed has changed the way for me..

You have to make up your own mind... Now if your going to build ONE car..Don't buy one... But if you like making thing's.. Buy a lathe... You will be very surprised at just how many people around your house you can help one day..
07-29-2011 08:18 PM
lt1silverhawk Thank you all so much for the very informative responses. This will help out alot of us in making a decision one way or the other about buying a very expensive piece of equipment. If you guys have more to add, I for one am happy to read.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ogre
actually i can't see any reason to buy a lathe to build a hotrod.
i've made many parts on a lathe, but none for my truk.
i did have my drive shaft modified on a lathe, but it was a monster.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cboy
Gotta agree. I bought a lathe thinking it would be indespensable for scratch building...and I have never ever used it. I'll be Craig's Listing it in the near future just to get it out of may way.
Well, talk about much ado 'bout nuthin'! LOL!


Like I said in my earlier post, I'm just doing light research after the "oh my God what a cool machine I want one in my garage so I can build my own Batmobile" hormone kicked in when I saw a lathe at the local HF. cboy was kind enough to offer me some good advice via PMs and shared his own experience of having built hotrods without the use of a lathe. Several members have echoed the same sentiment on this thread. For any members considering metal work, I would also suggest reading the section titled "Tools of the trade" in cboy's ebook, "The Scratch-Built Hot Rod".


It has been very very interesting and informative to read what every single one of you guys do make or repair with a lathe, and what you have manged to make without it. It really helps put things in a realistic perspective, especially when asking oneself "do I need one?" So while I will not be buying a lathe at this time since I've no need for one, it really is good to know what it can be used for. So I'm glad I asked you guys.




Quote:
Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS
I use it to do lot on a car... One thing for sure.. Is a Shifter nob... Plus a lot of things around the house... The sky is the limit when you own a lathe and milling machine...
Dang it Randy! Here I had my mind made up that I wouldn't buy a lathe and you had to go give me more ideas lol! Shifter knob, you say? Well, I'm sold!


Thanks again you guys!
07-29-2011 03:26 AM
blwn31 One major factor for a lathe purchase is the spindle hole size. Meaning the size of the hole through the spindle that you can chuck a piece up. Many small lathes don't give you a very large hole. On my Clausing 5914, if I remember right, the hole is 1 3/8". That's pretty good for a lathe this size. Also, on lets say a 12 x 36, if you had a 12" four jaw chuck, you will be able to swing a part maybe 12 1/2" MAX. You say I will never do anything that big, If you chuck it up off center to bore a hole that doesn't leave you much to play with. Just a couple inches when you start to think about the radius to the spindle bore. Only 6 inches! You also have to remember the chuck jaws, you don't want them to stick out past the chuck O.D. when gripping the O.D. of the part you are turning. That would be bad news.
Next, tooling is a major expense. Nothing is cheap when it comes to machine tools. The machine is the cheap part. There are taper attachments, grinding attachments, quick change tool posts and associated holders, drill chucks, live centers, dead centers, face plates, steady rest, follow rest, dogs etc, etc, etc.
Yes you can build a Hot Rod without one. But, for me, once you start to do accurate work you will never go back. I absolutely love my lathe and mill.
It really comes down to do You want one, and can you afford one?
As far as building stuff in my lathe, I have rebuilt the distributor in my 1931 Ford Sedan (original eng), made bushings for my sway bar, reground the jaws my ball bearing chuck. I tried to swing rotors, but they are to big for my machine. I've done more just can't remember at this time. There is no limit to what can be made with a lathe if you put your mind to it.
Hope this helps a little.
Good luck!

Keith
07-28-2011 11:58 PM
JohnnyK81 Unless you own a dang small/mid sized column milling machine. Then you try to find ways not to use it.
07-28-2011 10:01 PM
NEW INTERIORS Well !!!! I have to agree with Most of the tool's talked about here.... And I have built many cars without a Lathe... BUT !!! And that's a big BUT... Since I have one now..I wouldn't build cars without one... Yes.. You can Build a hot rod without it... I won't say You can't... But for me... I use mine on every car I do now...I use it to do a lot on a car... One thing for sure.. Is a Shifter nob... Plus a lot of things around the house... The sky is the limit when you own a lathe and milling machine...
07-28-2011 04:24 PM
JohnnyK81 I was going to mention that I know for a fact oldred has used his lathe for his Mustang.
07-28-2011 11:44 AM
oldred I used my lathe extensively when building my Rack&pinion and steering column parts but that would be a very rare case and I can't think of a single other thing I have used it for building/modifying parts for the Mustang. Personally I find having a lathe indispensable for general shop use but very rarely for auto use, mine is used for antique tractor/farm machinery parts, gunsmithing and more recently mining equipment parts. So while there can be many reasons to want a lathe hotrodding is usually not one of them. The items Cboy lists are definitely top of the list for any shop and they all rank about equally in importance IMO.



EDIT: After thinking about this I was not including the rotors and brake drums, a bunch of them, that I have done plus a few flywheels but this requires a fairly large lathe (for a home shop anyway).
07-28-2011 11:42 AM
JohnnyK81 Man, I've used it a whole bunch for my mustang. From making adapters to fit rotors onto axles, to aesthetic things such as making an aluminum shift handle and round knob.
07-28-2011 10:20 AM
cboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by ogre
...actually i can't see any reason to buy a lathe to build a hotrod.
Gotta agree. I bought a lathe thinking it would be indespensable for scratch building...and I have never ever used it. I'll be Craig's Listing it in the near future just to get it out of may way.

If the hobbyist doesn't already have them, I would say to top your "To Buy" list with a very good Mig welder, a good drill press, a good compressor, an assortment of air tools (grinders, cut off wheels etc) and a 14" chop saw. A lathe, in my estimation, would be far far down my list of essential tools...if on the list at all.
07-28-2011 07:46 AM
keithmiller69 Thanks lt1silverhawk for the Tips and Recommendations.
My little brother is planning to buy the Metal lathe,I will share your informative post with him.
07-27-2011 11:23 PM
ogre
Quote:
Originally Posted by lt1silverhawk
For those of use who have not done any metal work or used a lathe, would you or any other members be able to give us an idea of what common parts can or can't be made due to size limitations?
actually i can't see any reason to buy a lathe to build a hotrod.
i've made many parts on a lathe, but none for my truk.
i did have my drive shaft modified on a lathe, but it was a monster.


as for a bandsaw: unless your building a frame, same thing. no reason to have one.
and even then you could get by with a grinder with a cut off wheel.

a good welder and a couple of grinders is all you need for most metal work on a hotrod
07-27-2011 05:22 PM
buggyman
saw

check northern tool I bought one where the head swivels instead of the vice like most have had it 8 years works great
07-27-2011 04:33 PM
JohnnyK81 Apparently the metal horizontal bandsaw from HF is pretty decent!
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