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04-30-2015 08:36 AM
Leakie Heck, I didn't even realize that they made a 4 cyl Camaro. Yuck.

Probably best to check with the people you got it from, they will have all the answers.
04-30-2015 05:41 AM
matts37chev
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
My '38 was the same way even after a proper alignment, so I installed a pressure reducer. It slows down the reaction a little and makes the effort a little firmer, which helps the "twitchy" feeling of ANY movement of the wheel, turning the tires. Much happier with the steering stability now.

Mustang II Power Steering Flow Valve for GM Pump, 2 GPM - Speedway Motors, America's Oldest Speed Shop

Will this work on the newer pumps?
Somebody figured out that my pump looks to be off of a 82 4cyl. Camaro.

I just ordered a kit from Art Morrison that has both the pressure reducing spring kit and the flow reducing fiiting.
But it is a 6 - an fitting. So will need a different end on my hose.
I am trying to figure out if I can fit a regular V 8 pump in my fancy bracket.
04-29-2015 06:00 PM
matts37chev
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Originally Posted by nunattax View Post
what diameter are your pulleys on the crank and on the p/s pump.i have a 6 3/4inch pulley driving a 6 inch pulley on the pump.if you are using the 7 3/4 inch crank pulley to drive a 6 inch pulley on the p/s pump you could be spinning the pumpextra fast creating a lot of oil pressure all the time.(just a thought)
my crank pulley is about 6.75" and my P/S pulley is about 4.75"
04-29-2015 11:15 AM
nunattax
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Originally Posted by matts37chev View Post
Looks like you got yous fixed up perfectly.

Mine was sitting at a funny angle in the bracket.
I thought maybe the holes in the bracket were to big or egg shaped from wearing funny.
But they all look ok, so it will take some extra poking at stuff to figure out.

In this pic you can see the water pump sticks out too far, and if you look between the two, you can just see the top of the p/s pulley sitting at an angle.


a better shot of my setup
04-29-2015 07:28 AM
Leakie
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I told the wife, that I need to be careful not to tear too much apart, and that I need to fix a little bit at a time.
Or I might never get it back on the road.

She asked how much more I thought it needed, so I told her
" to make it the way i want it, I could probably keep taking parts off of the front until I reached the back bumper."
She didn't think that was very funny.

Ah wives, they just don't understand!
04-28-2015 09:54 PM
matts37chev
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Originally Posted by nunattax View Post
what diameter are your pulleys on the crank and on the p/s pump.i have a 6 3/4inch pulley driving a 6 inch pulley on the pump.if you are using the 7 3/4 inch crank pulley to drive a 6 inch pulley on the p/s pump you could be spinning the pumpextra fast creating a lot of oil pressure all the time.(just a thought)
That's a good point, I will measure them.
04-28-2015 04:23 PM
nunattax
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I haven't got that far yet, I keep getting sucked into working on my sons nissan 240sx.

It is next though, I need to get the pressure and flow dropped in the pump, then I will work on getting it mounted straight.

what diameter are your pulleys on the crank and on the p/s pump.i have a 6 3/4inch pulley driving a 6 inch pulley on the pump.if you are using the 7 3/4 inch crank pulley to drive a 6 inch pulley on the p/s pump you could be spinning the pumpextra fast creating a lot of oil pressure all the time.(just a thought)
04-28-2015 02:45 PM
matts37chev I told the wife, that I need to be careful not to tear too much apart, and that I need to fix a little bit at a time.
Or I might never get it back on the road.

She asked how much more I thought it needed, so I told her
" to make it the way i want it, I could probably keep taking parts off of the front until I reached the back bumper."
She didn't think that was very funny.
04-28-2015 07:40 AM
Leakie Geez, Matt, I thought you bought a driver not another project! You might want to stop fixing thing before you have to rebuild the whole car!
04-28-2015 05:05 AM
matts37chev Saturday I got to meet the guy that put the carb on the car, for the guys that I bought the car from.
He said he was having a hard time getting the timing right, so he did it by ear.

it's funny, I ran across him by accident, he is a friend of some of my more casual friends.
but he has a 37 sedan, and I got a hold of him just to swap car stories and info.
then I found out he worked on my 38 a little bit.

So I think I should verify the timing marks on the balancer, before I put the front of the car back together.
It's so much easier to see what's going on with the rad. and grill out of the car.
04-28-2015 04:57 AM
matts37chev
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thats as good as it gets.how does the p/s pump look now?
I haven't got that far yet, I keep getting sucked into working on my sons nissan 240sx.

It is next though, I need to get the pressure and flow dropped in the pump, then I will work on getting it mounted straight.
04-28-2015 01:40 AM
nunattax
37/38 thread

thats as good as it gets.how does the p/s pump look now?
04-27-2015 08:20 PM
matts37chev
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Originally Posted by nunattax View Post
matt the pulley on your water pump looks aftermarket and could be incorrect.
.nunattax
I have changed the water pump since that pic was taken.
The new stock replacement water pump is shorter than the chrome one that the previous owner had on the car.
(I think it was a corvette pump)
Here is a pic of the pulley alignment with the new pump.
I am very happy with it now.
04-27-2015 09:10 AM
nunattax
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Originally Posted by matts37chev View Post
Looks like you got yous fixed up perfectly.

Mine was sitting at a funny angle in the bracket.
I thought maybe the holes in the bracket were to big or egg shaped from wearing funny.
But they all look ok, so it will take some extra poking at stuff to figure out.

In this pic you can see the water pump sticks out too far, and if you look between the two, you can just see the top of the p/s pulley sitting at an angle.


matt

i would take the front off the car from and start over again.from the crank i have a double pulley and another single pulley in front of that with a 2-3mm spacer in between.front pulley driving the power steering pump is smaller diameter than the one driving the alternator.no belt in the inside pulley (air conditioning) removed.

pulley on water pump(long pump)double pulley has small shim to stop the pulley from rubbing on the pump body.the pulley on yourwater pump looks aftermarket and could be incorrect.

my p/s pump bracket has three mounting points two on the front of the crankcase and one on the engine mount.when i shimmed the bracket with 6mm spacer i had to file the slot on the engine mount ing point to allow me to pull the bracket forward.this greatly improved the situation and i coulstrain the bracket to improve the angle of the pulley and the pump.from your picture looks like you could do the same .post a picture of your p/s pump and bracket.a straight edge across the crank pulley should give you a good idea of how far out your pulleys are.nunattax
04-27-2015 07:50 AM
Too Many Projects I had to use washers to shim the Allen Grove PS brackets on my '38 too. They were "close" but not as straight as I wanted.

Matt, that rad looks really clean now. It should cool a LOT better...
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