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05-13-2013 04:15 PM
Im not sure what makes a hook in bad or good condition but mine is sharp. I finally got the machine to not hangup after tightening the top tension more than i thought it should be. Any tighter and it breaks the thread so i can work with this.
05-13-2013 07:29 AM
DanTwoLakes The take-up has nothing to do with it. I have been sewing for 40 years, and have never had to adjust it on any machine I've ever used. The hook is what picks up the bobbin thread, and that may need to be replaced. A complete hook with a new bobbin case is around $125 if I remember correctly.
05-12-2013 09:06 PM
Detective work
This first pic is my problem. The thread grabber (if thats its name) catches the top thread on its second time around before the stitch has time to tighten up.
The next pic is of the machine threaded and if im not mistaken, the "take up" does have some adjustment (the two chrome disks move independently; the rear one allowing the small spring to sit low or high) which i thought would put more tension on the up stroke allowing the stitch to tighten before the grabber came around. This doesnt seem to be true. The only thing i can see that might be wrong is that spring sometimes gets hung up on the casing of the machine instead of resting on the intended disk (illustrated with the RED arrow).
05-11-2013 02:26 PM
adamvaughn The only prewound bobbin i have at this time is 138 and im working with 92. Though my wound bobbin wind isnt perfect, it stays taught and doesnt seem to hang up.
Turning the needle a little counter clockwise seemed like it might foward the thread just enough not to get snagged but didnt.
I know its way above my head but i saw a manual for the 211g describing adjustment for the bobbin casing and everything around it including the height of the thread grabber. I just dont understand why the thinner thread sews fine and this doesnt.
I think its time for a drink.
05-11-2013 01:25 PM
DanTwoLakes Try loosening the screw that holds the needle, and rotate the needle a small amount to the right. Sew with it and see how it does. If that doesn't work, try rotating the needle to the left a little. I can't really see anything wrong. It really has to be something simple. Are you winding your own bobbins? If so, find some pre-wound bobbins and see how they work.
05-11-2013 12:47 PM
Close but no cigar

I feel Im being a nuisance but i know im so close. like i said in the previous post, its missing grabbing the thread underneath which makes it skip a stitch sometimes or it grabs the thread on the second time before the stitch has time to tighten up.
i did rethread it like you said also.
05-11-2013 12:21 PM
DanTwoLakes Your threading looks fine except for the thread guide right before the two tension disks. Use the middle hole, don't loop the thread over the guide.
05-11-2013 11:45 AM
Two Issues

First Issue: These first two pics show the thread stay on the top side of the bobbin and then gets a little snagged just before the stitch is tightened up.
(you can see my screwdriver pointing where is snags....just a little.)

Second Issue: The next two pics show the thread pass smoothly past the part that it hung up on before but when it does, the thread puller sometimes catches the thread and splits it before it has time to tighten the stitch up and then it either gets hung up in the bobbin and skips a stitch on top of the vinyl.
Other than this occasional hangup, its sewing pretty good.
05-11-2013 11:18 AM
My machine threaded
05-10-2013 02:09 PM
DanTwoLakes Here's the rest of the pictures:
05-10-2013 02:08 PM
DanTwoLakes Sungard is what I use for everything. No, there is no adjustment for the take-up spring on the upper tension. Are you sure you have the machine threaded correctly?
05-10-2013 01:03 PM
Thanks Dan

I greatly appreciate all your help Dan. The machine was tuned just before i got it and runs great with the thinner thread it came with. I threw away the ebay crap i bought and just got a "sunguard" brand (92) from a local store and have had great success with a few tension adjustments.
One more question: when i stitch at a lower speed the top thread goes down the hole and gets hung up in the bobbin area. Is the take up/check spring an adjustment?
05-10-2013 07:15 AM
DanTwoLakes You need to take it to a pro to have it timed, have the tensions set, and have the machine checked for worn or broken parts. It's impossible to troubleshoot without running the machine myself, or seeing what it looks like.
05-09-2013 01:12 PM
preference of thread?

Im not having much luck now with the thicker thread. I was using v128 thread and an 18 leather needle on my household dressmaker and i almost finished a whole seat besides where it became four or more layers. The thread is "dabond" polyester i found on worked well so i bought some v92 but it unravels very easily. Im having trouble with both threads in the Singer 211. (unraveling and getting hung up just above the needle eye; im making sure i hold the start of the thread to the "one o' clock" direction when i start.
05-09-2013 12:02 PM
DanTwoLakes I never use leather needles at all. I also use a size 21 or 22 needle for almost all my sewing, and those will easily go through as many layers of vinyl as will go under the foot of your machine.
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