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07-08-2013 01:07 PM
MARTINSR Cool, usually it's a door being opened before the car comes to a stop so it swings out hitting the end of the travel on the hinges.

Brian
07-08-2013 12:28 PM
Shiseiji Oh yes! You were a great help! No confession from son, but I suspect feet on door had a part.
07-08-2013 12:23 PM
MARTINSR Is it working now?

Brian
07-08-2013 11:57 AM
Shiseiji
Thanks Again Brian!

Couldn't get to the fender bolts, but we were able to use rags and large flat tip screwdrivers to ease leading edge of door over fender. After that it was follow the pictures.
06-27-2013 08:18 AM
Shiseiji Thanks Brian and for the education. I volunter teach bicycle maintenance, and tell folks "Ignorance we can fix." You just have to be willing to ask questions. Hope you get a chance to post more, understand if you don't.

Fortuntally after the door was closed and the damage noted, nothing else was done. So so far the fender isn't damaged. Car has corossion issues, I won't be surprised to find this a contribuiting factor. He just moved in with me and has been sitting in the car when he goes to burn one. I suspect he had his feet on it but not quite sure how he managed to push it out. I'll see what I have that will fit in the gap and cushion the fender from the door if we can get it to unlatch. We may be pulling the trim to get past that issue.

Ron
06-27-2013 07:48 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by Shiseiji View Post
Hi all, Ron the "Body work isn't my thing." dude. But I'm trying to help out my kid.

As noted, this is one of the few places on the 'net where I found this topis is covered and I'm sure glad it i!. Same issue, and I understand the fix, but how do I get to where I can adjust the hinge when Ican't get the door open without the door leading edge (former aviation dude, sorry) jamming into the 1/4 panel?

TIA.

Ron
You can unbolt the bottom of the fender and pull it out pretty easy. The other thing is to get a thin piece of metal and slip it into the between the fender and door. It's not the "1/4" panel, it's a "Fender", the "1/4" panel is the rear "fender" on a car. On the truck it would be a "bed side". But if you slip a piece of metal between the two you can slide it up into place keeping the door from going on the outside of the fender as you open the door.

That all being said, depending on how bad the door is bent, this may not be an option, that is often a bad sign and that door is bent too much to do anything without serious repairs. The fender is likely also bent in from the door being sprung against it.

I have seen this fender to door problem does't mean serious damage to the hinge area, don't get me wrong. But often depending on how bad they are hitting one an other is a dead give away to how bad the hinges are damaged at the cowl.

I'll try to post a photo today showing what I mean with the piece of metal between them.

Brian
06-27-2013 06:26 AM
Shiseiji
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Originally Posted by DerickMoore View Post
The wind caught the door on my 2005 Ford E-350 van, and the configuration is such that after shutting it and discovering it was jammed, I couldn't open it enough to see what got bent.
Hi all, Ron the "Body work isn't my thing." dude. But I'm trying to help out my kid.

As noted, this is one of the few places on the 'net where I found this topis is covered and I'm sure glad it i!. Same issue, and I understand the fix, but how do I get to where I can adjust the hinge when Ican't get the door open without the door leading edge (former aviation dude, sorry) jamming into the 1/4 panel?

TIA.

Ron
06-07-2013 10:23 PM
MARTINSR Yep that's right.

Brian
06-07-2013 07:29 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
John, on your 55 (this is a passenger car, the truck is the same I believe) there are bolts at the back of the hinge (see photo). THOSE are the most important bolts for adjustment in and out at the front of the door. Moving the pivot point of the hinge is what moves the door, on these hinges the pivot point is way up near the front of the hinge where these bolts are!

So moving the front of the hinge in is going get you where you need to be I am thinking.

Brian
Actually I am referring to the 54. It is almost identicle to the 55 and I knew every one would have a mental image of the 55. I have plenty of adjustment fore and aft but it is too tight at the front with it adjusted all the way out. I believe that if I blocked the hinge and forced the door in to spring it that would keep the hinge from traveling so far and effectively cause it to be further out when the door was closed. Basically the same thing as blocking a trunk hinge and forcing the deck lid down to raise it.

John
06-07-2013 03:34 PM
MARTINSR John, on your 55 (this is a passenger car, the truck is the same I believe) there are bolts at the back of the hinge (see photo). THOSE are the most important bolts for adjustment in and out at the front of the door. Moving the pivot point of the hinge is what moves the door, on these hinges the pivot point is way up near the front of the hinge where these bolts are!

So moving the front of the hinge in is going get you where you need to be I am thinking.

Brian

06-06-2013 08:18 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
John, yes, if you did this it would bend the hinge pushing the front of the door OUT.

Brian
Cool. Do me a favor and look at my thread "49-54 Gm floor pan construction". Tell me what you think.

Thanks
John
06-06-2013 08:11 PM
MARTINSR
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Since this thread is active again, I have a question please. On a hinge assembly like a 55 chevy that will adjust fore and aft ok but is in at the top and bottom beyond the adjustment limits can this be used to make the poor close a little more out in front. Shimming the front of the hinge would work but bending the hinge would also make bring the front out some. Very similar to a trunk hinge.

John
John, yes, if you did this it would bend the hinge pushing the front of the door OUT.

Brian
06-06-2013 07:55 PM
John long Since this thread is active again, I have a question please. On a hinge assembly like a 55 chevy that will adjust fore and aft ok but is in at the top and bottom beyond the adjustment limits can this be used to make the poor close a little more out in front. Shimming the front of the hinge would work but bending the hinge would also make bring the front out some. Very similar to a trunk hinge.

John
06-06-2013 09:22 AM
tech69 sometimes you even have to take out the door catch/stopper and check the mating surfaces and straighten the area it mounts to. This technique is also the same technique as bending decklid hinges, but you're not really bending them just tweaking the mating surface.
06-06-2013 08:17 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by DerickMoore View Post
The wind caught the door on my 2005 Ford E-350 van, and the configuration is such that after shutting it and discovering it was jammed, I couldn't open it enough to see what got bent.

I 'just knew' that the fix should be simple, but would never have figured it to be this easy.

Thank you so much for the help.

(Strange that the help is only found here)
Isn't it great when a plan comes together!

Brian
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