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Today 07:12 PM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Went back out today to grab a short side axle shaft, in case I want to narrow the 8.8" Ford. Also took my calipers and measured the flange bolt pattern on the ends of the axle tube. They are not a square pattern, but rectangular at 3.40" across the top two bolts, 3.09" across the bottom two, and 1.68" top to bottom spacing.
From what I have in my records, this bolt pattern isn't close to anything else. Big Fords are either 3.557" x 2.375" or 3.557" x 2.0"
Hope this helps John!
I really appreciate that. I will measure mine and see what the options are. Thanks again.

I spent my day cleaning and prepping the loose parts today. It is good to have a couple of coats of Epoxy on them and know they are protected.

John

Today 04:03 PM
1971BB427
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
There is no hurry but if you would do that at your convenience it would be great.

Thank you,
John
Went back out today to grab a short side axle shaft, in case I want to narrow the 8.8" Ford. Also took my calipers and measured the flange bolt pattern on the ends of the axle tube. They are not a square pattern, but rectangular at 3.40" across the top two bolts, 3.09" across the bottom two, and 1.68" top to bottom spacing.
From what I have in my records, this bolt pattern isn't close to anything else. Big Fords are either 3.557" x 2.375" or 3.557" x 2.0"
Hope this helps John!
Today 02:50 PM
wretched ratchet
"what I DID today, so I can WORK ON tomorrow"

Finally found a Plating Shop that I could afford (Airline Plating Houston, Texas) and after 3 weeks and $450, I drove an hour from the house and picked up my "newly" rechromed front bumper. I could not be happier and I know what I'll be doing tomorrow morning now.

The other pic was a Kodak Moment about 3 blocks from the Plating Shop.



KODAK MOMENT !

Today 08:24 AM
1971BB427
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Originally Posted by timothale View Post

I have a 9 3/8 lincoln Disc rear under one of my T bucket projects. 5 on 5 pattern. I have always read that big lincolns and some of the big T birds were the 9 3/8 gears, but if you do some grinding on a big 9 housing you can get the 9 3/8 pumpkin in the large 9 .
You can also drop a 9" third member into a 9 3/8" housing without any modifications. So if you wanted to change ratios the 9" makes it much easier.
edit-Oops! John beat me to it!
Today 07:57 AM
John long
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Originally Posted by timothale View Post
I've had a Few over the years , somewhere I have a pile of info about them. I traded the last one as partial swap for the glass 32 roadster body. Not much interchanges with them. bearings, caliper brackets, pinion flange are unique. The Ford design sliding calipers tend to wear out one side of the rotor. whenever I have one apart I sand-buff and lube the mating sliding surfaces. They are narrow, can easily swaped into an early mustang. Most are geared around 2.50, one had a detroit locker. I ended up doing a couple 8.8 in the wrecking yard builds. Fox mustang 8.8, 2 short ranger 5 bolt axle shafts and Lincoln Town car rear disc,

---------- Post added at 08:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 PM ----------

I have a 9 3/8 lincoln Disc rear under one of my T bucket projects. 5 on 5 pattern. I have always read that big lincolns and some of the big T birds were the 9 3/8 gears, but if you do some grinding on a big 9 housing you can get the 9 3/8 pumpkin in the large 9 .
Coorrect, and a 9" will go right into a 9 3/8 housing.

This rear is the correct width and is indeed a 2:50 ratio. i bought it very cheap from a friend and knew I would have to find a 3:00 gear set but was not aware of the funky brakes. I am still glad to have it.

John
Today 04:15 AM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by gearheadslife View Post
when you make this, add a 1/2 drive square to the handle end.. this way you can put the ratchet or b-bar in the end and have extra leverage without making a long tool that won't fit in tool box..


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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
I have one of these and it works good.
You could weld an old socket on for the extension trick gearhead mentioned.

Thanks Guys.

Just saw these posts. I'm not getting email notifications again.
Yesterday 08:43 PM
timothale
versailles rear

I've had a Few over the years , somewhere I have a pile of info about them. I traded the last one as partial swap for the glass 32 roadster body. Not much interchanges with them. bearings, caliper brackets, pinion flange are unique. The Ford design sliding calipers tend to wear out one side of the rotor. whenever I have one apart I sand-buff and lube the mating sliding surfaces. They are narrow, can easily swaped into an early mustang. Most are geared around 2.50, one had a detroit locker. I ended up doing a couple 8.8 in the wrecking yard builds. Fox mustang 8.8, 2 short ranger 5 bolt axle shafts and Lincoln Town car rear disc,

---------- Post added at 08:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 PM ----------

I have a 9 3/8 lincoln Disc rear under one of my T bucket projects. 5 on 5 pattern. I have always read that big lincolns and some of the big T birds were the 9 3/8 gears, but if you do some grinding on a big 9 housing you can get the 9 3/8 pumpkin in the large 9 .
Yesterday 07:03 PM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
I'll take a tape to the bolt pattern on the axle I got, and let you know what measurements are for the 8.8" Exploder.
There is no hurry but if you would do that at your convenience it would be great.

Thank you,
John
Yesterday 06:46 PM
1971BB427
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
The Versailles has the big bearings, 9 3/8 gear set but 4 1/2 lug pattern. I think it has the 2 1/2 inch brake spacing but have not measured it....just what I have read.

John
I'll take a tape to the bolt pattern on the axle I got, and let you know what measurements are for the 8.8" Exploder.
Yesterday 06:09 PM
123pugsy I got my valve spring compressor tool done the other day.










Then I found a broken damper spring and the fun begins....








Got some new springs and they are .125" too short on the installed height....arrghhh.....

I'm thinking of taking the dampers from the new springs and shoving them into the old springs. They do seem to fit nicely.
Yesterday 05:51 PM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Yes, I think you're right about the brakes John. Not sure if the axle pattern is the same on the Versailles and the Explorer, as I believe Versailles are large bearings, and may take a different bracket. But a drum configuration would work, or be doable if you opened up the holes.

Yes, I also did some street racing in hi school, and just after. Then when I came home from the military I started racing my BBC Camaro for about 16 years. It got where the car was tired, and so was I. Quit in '89, and hadn't been on a strip again until 3 years ago. These Billetproof events are a great way to race and just have fun. You can run your car as much or as little as you like, and win or lose you can return and run again. I'm really enjoying them, but only do this one race each summer.
The Versailles has the big bearings, 9 3/8 gear set but 4 1/2 lug pattern. I think it has the 2 1/2 inch brake spacing but have not measured it....just what I have read.

John
Yesterday 05:24 PM
1971BB427 Yes, I think you're right about the brakes John. Not sure if the axle pattern is the same on the Versailles and the Explorer, as I believe Versailles are large bearings, and may take a different bracket. But a drum configuration would work, or be doable if you opened up the holes.

Yes, I also did some street racing in hi school, and just after. Then when I came home from the military I started racing my BBC Camaro for about 16 years. It got where the car was tired, and so was I. Quit in '89, and hadn't been on a strip again until 3 years ago. These Billetproof events are a great way to race and just have fun. You can run your car as much or as little as you like, and win or lose you can return and run again. I'm really enjoying them, but only do this one race each summer.
Yesterday 05:13 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Wish I'd seen your request earlier John! What exactly are you looking for in Explorer brakes? Discs, drums, front, or rear? I went and got the axle this morning. Took me a couple hours to get it out and loaded. Also got spring plates, U bolts, and driveline rear flanged joint. The total came to $102.65, but all I could find in limited slip rear axles was 3.73 ratio. Not a biggie, but did want to try a 4.10 if my current axle ever blew up.
Really nice axle though, with low mileage, from a '94 drum rear Explorer. I'll have no clean up to do, so just store it for now.
LOL, I have a Lincoln Versailles rear for the '53. It has some really funky disc brake calipers with emergency brakes that work with a plunger through the caliper. If you can find them remanufactured, they are pricey. I think the smart thing would be to replace the brakes with something a little more conventional even if it is with drum brakes.


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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Just got this video link sent to me by a friend! The 2nd match up is my Falcon, and a buddy's '56 Chevy. The last match up is a couple more friends, and Robbie's Willys coupe snaps an axle on the launch! Fortunately he didn't get too out of shape, and saved it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0nqWJ7wKTc
That has to be a ball. While I did some street racing as a foolish kid, I have never driven a car down the strip. I know I have missed out on some fun.

John
Yesterday 04:36 PM
1971BB427 Just got this video link sent to me by a friend! The 2nd match up is my Falcon, and a buddy's '56 Chevy. The last match up is a couple more friends, and Robbie's Willys coupe snaps an axle on the launch! Fortunately he didn't get too out of shape, and saved it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0nqWJ7wKTc
Yesterday 03:44 PM
1971BB427
Quote:
Originally Posted by John long View Post
LOL, I still hate you but pick me up a set of Explorer brakes while you are there.

John
Wish I'd seen your request earlier John! What exactly are you looking for in Explorer brakes? Discs, drums, front, or rear? I went and got the axle this morning. Took me a couple hours to get it out and loaded. Also got spring plates, U bolts, and driveline rear flanged joint. The total came to $102.65, but all I could find in limited slip rear axles was 3.73 ratio. Not a biggie, but did want to try a 4.10 if my current axle ever blew up.
Really nice axle though, with low mileage, from a '94 drum rear Explorer. I'll have no clean up to do, so just store it for now.
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