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02-28-2012 04:03 PM
inkfreak1976
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Originally Posted by rsfyj
a c6 wont fit my 351 Cleveland it will only acept the 289.351w. 260 351c. The c6 has a square lookin top with a different bolt pattern. And a C4 is stronger than a 400 as far as i am concerned. i have seen many 35i C with C4s and never died.
the c 4 stock according to a tech at ford tech line will handle 250-300 hp max with out up grades, a turbo 400 stock will handle 650 hp according to a chevy tech line. i was told that a c 4 wouldnt handle what im looking to throw at it in the conditions that im looking to throw at it.
02-28-2012 02:08 PM
rsfyj
C6

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Originally Posted by rick 427
UMMM...Yes, a C-6 will bolt up....1 bolt pattern fits the 429-460- and 351m.....the other bolt pattern fits the 289-302-351w-351c
a c6 wont fit my 351 Cleveland it will only acept the 289.351w. 260 351c. The c6 has a square lookin top with a different bolt pattern. And a C4 is stronger than a 400 as far as i am concerned. i have seen many 35i C with C4s and never died.
02-28-2012 10:55 AM
inkfreak1976
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Originally Posted by Irelands child
Why are you so worried about the cost of a transmission when you have so much $$ tied up in that "650Hp" 351C. Doesn't compute
my explanation, Ive called countless trans shops around my town, i found one builder that new exactly what needed to be done to handle that hp and was the cheepest qoute. but the problem is he offered no warrenty other than his word and we all know that that '' word'' doesnt hold up to well on the side of the road. and the other shops knowlage of the subject didnt impress me much and the cost was all most double and a whole 30 day warrenty on labor. this didnt leave me to hopefullvthat the job would be done right. I am useing the 650 hp as a general number to over build my drive train, to lessen the break down factor, bye the time im done with the engine the total hp will be most likely be under 550 but i want a safety factor. because of the lack of warrenty and the conditions that im expecting to put my car under.
im not against putting money into the trans but with the experiance that ive had with just calling around for qoutes didnt leave me to excited to spend that kinda of money for inexperiance , basicly the lack of warrenty tells me that there not to solid on there knowlage of the subject and there just gonna give it a try at my expense.
02-28-2012 10:39 AM
inkfreak1976 thank you for the links im sure that they will prove helpfull.
02-28-2012 10:27 AM
S10xGN
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Originally Posted by inkfreak1976
do you know the correct way to build the c 4 to handle 650 hp, if you do im all ears, eyes and hands...
The info is out there:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/techa...n/viewall.html

http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/c-4-t...sing-2255.html

http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod/trans.html

http://www.c6-c4.com/

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...n/viewall.html

Etcetera, etcetara, zow...

Russ
02-28-2012 08:08 AM
Irelands child Why are you so worried about the cost of a transmission when you have so much $$ tied up in that "650Hp" 351C. Doesn't compute
02-28-2012 01:13 AM
inkfreak1976
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Originally Posted by Irelands child
Why not just rebuild any C4 that you already have instead of trying to bastardize something else. To do a C4 - really no special tools beyond a dial indicator They are about as simple to do as a 3-4 speed manual. Couple hundred bucks worth of parts from here or similar supplier, a weekend, and you are on your way. To do a performance build, another few hundred and a heluva lot better then some odd ball transmission for that enging.

do you know the correct way to build the c 4 to handle 650 hp, if you do im all ears, eyes and hands.
and im not trying to piss people off with the idea of putting the combo together i just want a car that launches hard, shifts solid, is durable and doesnt leave a trail of parts for the wrecker. truthfully if the trans guys in my area would come down a bit on the price id go with them to rebuild my c4, ive heard many horror stories of trying to rebuild auto trans. and altho im ready to give it a shot, but i dont think that i can handle a high proformance build my first shot. unless there that easy to make strong?????
02-28-2012 01:04 AM
inkfreak1976
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Originally Posted by rick 427
'' but if anyone is wondering to do this conversion is around a grand!! not a bad price.''
So you're saying that a built 400 trans...stall converter...custom driveshaft...400 yoke...mounts...the conversion kit to bolt it to your ford motor....etc. all for around a thousand dollars.....really
nope just the kit, basicly a bell houseing and a crank adaptor. but i ended up finding it way cheaper threw jw like mentioned above said round 400 bucks. for the bell h. and crank adapter.
and i seen that someone posted a diagram of a c 4, and i would love to rebuild what i have. but i can rebuild it stock all day long and burn it up the same day i put it in. unless someone has a vid to post on how to make it handle at least 650 hp i dont think rebuilding a c4 would be in my best interest right now. but if i can rebuild the c4 to handle that amount of hp. sign me up and save me some cash. bad thing is the chevy trans is a better more durable and would make my engine into a torque monster. just my thoughts.
02-27-2012 11:17 AM
rick 427 '' but if anyone is wondering to do this conversion is around a grand!! not a bad price.''
So you're saying that a built 400 trans...stall converter...custom driveshaft...400 yoke...mounts...the conversion kit to bolt it to your ford motor....etc. all for around a thousand dollars.....really
02-27-2012 10:13 AM
S10xGN
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Originally Posted by Irelands child
Why not just rebuild any C4 that you already have instead of trying to bastardize something else...
My thoughts, too. The C4 is small, light, and less costly in terms on HP losses. With a few good parts it will live a long life.

Russ
02-27-2012 07:05 AM
Irelands child Why not just rebuild any C4 that you already have instead of trying to bastardize something else. To do a C4 - really no special tools beyond a dial indicator They are about as simple to do as a 3-4 speed manual. Couple hundred bucks worth of parts from here or similar supplier, a weekend, and you are on your way. To do a performance build, another few hundred and a heluva lot better then some odd ball transmission for that enging.

02-27-2012 02:15 AM
inkfreak1976 and in case any one is wondering the company that gave me the info says to buy threw summit for the best price. but if anyone is wondering to do this conversion is around a grand!! not a bad price.
02-27-2012 02:13 AM
inkfreak1976
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Originally Posted by Crosley
Call / email JW transmissions in FLorida about a SFI bell for the Ford that bolts onto the T-400 transmission.
THANKS FOR THE TIP, they make a couple parts to do exactly what im looking to do. I had to call a couple differnt places, but that web site got me my answers thanks.
02-24-2012 03:52 PM
onlyfnway 55 HP loss? no way
02-24-2012 06:05 AM
Crosley Call / email JW transmissions in FLorida about a SFI bell for the Ford that bolts onto the T-400 transmission.
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