Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board - Reply to Topic
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Body - Exterior> Painting Plastic Body Panels
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Thread: Painting Plastic Body Panels Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
03-26-2012 11:49 PM
Shredder I used a heat gun (hair dryer) and removed the stickers on the rear side panels - they were not under clear coat. There was no residue left behind so that was incredibly easy.

I have decided to leave it "as is" even though I'm not excited with the colors, I can live with them. Meanwhile, I've posted advertisements in the F800R forums to let anyone know I will do a panel swap.

BMW makes at least six different color schemes and maybe someone out there will want to swap theirs for mine.

Also, I have not totally written off the idea of painting what I've got but I am definitely going to put this option off for a while. If or when I consider painting the panels again I will look at the archived version of this thread (I copied and saved it to my hard drive) because of the great comments and suggestions you guys offered.

Just wanted to say thanks again & I hope y'all enjoy what you're doing. I have great respect for your phenomenal skills with bodywork & painting, engines & transmissions - the whole thing is amazing.

I know every project isn't "fun" but I hope each of you will look at what you're doing and be glad you've got a job or hobby that involves hands-on activity. I hope you realize you have amazing skills and perform taks that are not just "necessary and functional" but also creative and artistic.

As a high school teacher, I see so many young people who struggle to even change a light bulb (okay, that's a little exaggerated - ha). I remember when I was in high school I took a visit to the "Vocational school" and we toured the automotive paint & body shop (they seemed to have everything that was vehicle related, all other shops as well). I was truly impressed with the body shop and standing in that oven and looking at the cars there in various stages of repair, I thought to myself "Wow, this would be a cool job."

Of course, my parents thought I was crazy and encouraged me to attend college. During my second semester of college I quit and started rewinding industrial electric motors. It didn't make my parents very happy but I enjoyed it. Later, I eventually did the college thing but looking back, I'm not convinced my life is any better with the white collar jobs. So, in many ways I look back at my previous jobs when I was training people how to run machines in the cotton mills and when I was rewinding motors and I know it sounds crazy but I sometimes miss those days.

That's when people would actually work and get things done. It was a simpler life when I could pop the hood and actually see and work on the engine components. All tool boxes back then had a timing light and everyone knew how to use one.

Things are so different now - in some ways better but definitely not always. In my latter stages of "good quality" living, I don't have too many regrets. I am fortunate because I was never exclusively loyal to any brand but I gotta tell ya, the first time I saw a GTO I was in love. The rich kid in town got one for his 16th birthday. I'll never win the lottery but if I did, I'd have on in my garage.

And, if I ever somehow did get that GTO and someone dings it, I'll come back here and ask you guys for a bit of advice so I can make it right.

Until then, I hope each of you will find the joy and satisfaction you deserve in performing your labor - whether for fun or for your profession, it's not always easy or fun or exciting but it's a worthwhile thing to do and y'all know this more than I do but sometimes it seems like the only one that knows what a great job you're doing is you. But hold on to and protect your self worth because it's important to take pride in getting the job done well.

And unfortunately, the "doing it right" attitude seems to be something that's fading from America. But I'm optimistic that mindset will become popular again - it has to. Hopefully.

Thanks again,

Shredder
03-09-2012 07:19 PM
DanTwoLakes You mean stuff like crabgrass and nettles, right?
03-09-2012 03:30 PM
Shredder
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes
My snarkiness is usually caused by Canadian Club.............
My snarkiness is typically weed induced (by prescription, of course).
03-08-2012 03:34 PM
DanTwoLakes Your good advice far outweighs your negatives, Brian. You were dead right in the first place, and we all get snarky once in a while. My snarkiness is usually caused by Canadian Club.............
03-08-2012 03:31 PM
MARTINSR
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes
Exactly. WD-40 is petroleum (oil) based, and the paint will fail. On top of that, WD-40 penetrates, and even if it seems dry it can still be active and ruin a paint job. I know pro painters that won't even let a can of it inside their shops.
And this is why I was snide in my response, I should have stepped back and been more tactful. But it is SUCH bad advice I wouldn't want the newbe to think it is gospel and I didn't want to wait a minute just in case someone came along and tried it.

And again I am sorry I was such a smart ars, know me for a while and you will see I can be one often, but come back to my senses.

Brian
03-08-2012 03:24 PM
DanTwoLakes Exactly. WD-40 is petroleum (oil) based, and the paint will fail. On top of that, WD-40 penetrates, and even if it seems dry it can still be active and ruin a paint job. I know pro painters that won't even let a can of it inside their shops.
03-08-2012 02:59 PM
johnnyg
Quote:
Originally Posted by snydski
The wd 40 removes the decal residue If you don't like my advise block me ya pimple! but why go tho other peoples threads to tell them how you feel ? when you get contact me strait . kinda like a dog that only barks when the gates are closed , and can only squat when it's open. I'm not the only one you do it to! I saw you last night in action.
WD-40 is propane (oil) oil and paint DO NOT MIX.
03-07-2012 06:30 PM
Shredder
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes
You should clean the parts down to the base plastic.
. . . Any glue residue from a decal can be removed with mineral spirits or Xylol. Plastic parts can also be painted with products intended for plastic, and should include an adhesion promoter to draw the color into the plastic. Check out SEM products. . . . They have coatings in aerosol form that will give you a perfect outcome on plastic.
Really appreciate the advice.

Because of my lack of experience I might either take these to a pro or buy new parts and sell my originals --> LINK

It's a new machine and I don't want to screw it up - and I have a gift for screwing things up.
03-07-2012 10:43 AM
DanTwoLakes Check out this thread on WD-40. CLICK HERE
03-07-2012 10:06 AM
DanTwoLakes You should clean the parts down to the base plastic. I don't want to start anything here, but Brian is right about WD-40. Why don't you check with anybody who paints for a living and see if they even allow a can of WD-40 in their shop?
Any glue residue from a decal can be removed with mineral spirits or Xylol. Plastic parts can also be painted with products intended for plastic, and should include an adhesion promoter to draw the color into the plastic. Check out SEM products. CLICK HERE They have coatings in aerosol form that will give you a perfect outcome on plastic.


Quote:
Originally Posted by snydski
Build up of paint causes shelling or chipping I say Strip it . The use of toluene paint thinner will blister the clear coat after a few seconds, and then can be scraped off with razor blade , if you don't get it the first time do it again you will definitely feel the paint getting soft . It is less caustic than paint remover which will work , but might melt the plastic . Then take a heat gun to the decal or use the "Wonder Wheel" as seen on TV to remove the decal. Remove any residue with W-D 40 and wipe with denatured alcohol. I would use a "Two Part" catalyzed polyurethane and retarder with recommended thinner most likely methyl ethyl ketone , but not too thin this paint is made for .0003 mils a coat , , wet coats that are applied with a HVLP (High volume low pressure) sprayer which works well with smaller compressors and these paints don't need a clear coat but they must be mixed well and strained . If you live by a Marina these coating are used for boats and bath tubs and even tile the other stuff can be got at lowes. The mix that worked for me was 2 part base to 1 part catalyst and thinned 25% by volume not weight . paint takes hours to dry and 3 days to cure but it cures long after that.
03-07-2012 09:20 AM
ka1dza
Paint plastic parts

I am eventually going to take the fiberglass tops off the '78 Westy. What grit sandpaper should I use to smooth 34 years of accumulated crap off the shell. What is a good type of paint the will make the top "pop" when I put it back on the bus?

Thanks,

Bob
03-06-2012 04:57 AM
Shredder
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARTINSR
Anyway you look at it, it's no big deal.

Brian
Brian
Well, with the advice I've received here my confidence level is increasing that this project will turn out well.

Many thanks!
03-05-2012 08:01 PM
MARTINSR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredder
I have to keep reminding myself that eventually I'll be painting on paint not plastic. That's a strange concept for someone like me who's new to this stuff.

Thanks

Took it to the mountains yesterday - it performed flawlessly.
This all depends on if you remove the stripes, and while sanding you cut thru the paint. And yes they are typically painted over the plastic. I have only done a few and my no means an expert at motorcycles but from what I have seen they are painted plastic and no difference than the zillions of plastic car parts that I have painted.


But if you sand thru the paint and clear then you will need to put some primer over that plastic before you paint. Anyway you look at it, it's no big deal.

Brian
Brian
03-05-2012 07:29 PM
Shredder I think it will help if I take the plastic panels off my machine and photograph them next to a yard stick, or something to provide size reference.

That way y'all may have a better idea what I'm dealing with.

One plastic part is blue and has no stickers.

The other five parts are white, and all have stickers. Is it possible these white parts are just clear coat on top of white plastic (no paint)?

From what I can tell, all the stickers/decals are "under" some sort of clear coat.

I have to keep reminding myself that eventually I'll be painting on paint not plastic. That's a strange concept for someone like me who's new to this stuff.

Thanks

Took it to the mountains yesterday - it performed flawlessly.
03-05-2012 05:15 PM
MARTINSR I'm sorry, I mentioned the satin clear calling it "matt clear" of course "Matte" maybe would have caught your eye. Yes, you have to use the matte or satin clear (same thing, you say tomato I say tomAto) or the gas will mark the flat finish.

Yes you could remove the stickers the same way. Being careful not to cut thru the paint under it, that would be the key.




Brian
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.