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03-07-2012 10:52 AM
Dannyringo
hydrogen fuel burning

I am starting to wonder if your not getting the temp. higher and the gas is evaporating before it gets into the chambers? Think about this for a minute...Lets just say, that with what your doing that it is becoming steam, before it enters the chamber...Your breaking down water, H2o...Since steam is hotter, could the possibility exist that the cylinder is becoming more dense? Now Smokey Yunick had it together when he did his 2 cylinder motor and put it into a Fiero...If you gas is vaporizing before it gets into the cylinder and not becoming droplets again, than you are doing basically the same as what Smokey did....Now, if this could be proved, or disproved, (gas totally vaporizing before it gets into the cylinder) then just maybe your on the right track...I am curious if the water splitting into steam, or Hydrogen, or somehow the gas is vaporizing before the charge gets into the cylinders...
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/smok...ine-216191.htm
I posted several articles here, if anyone wish's to browse...
Good luck with your system....
03-07-2012 10:31 AM
rsfyj
Well

taken Matt, but I don't care as long as it works for me. But I can burn the stuff coming out of my bottle I put a flash back bottle of water and bubble through that, Now if hydrogen can burn what happens to it when it gets to the combustion chamber? The same type bottle I use the guy on you tube burns a hole through a coke can with the same set up i have. This is the same stuff that sucks up my intake, What happens to it does it go out the exhaust pipe?? If the gas is flammable and it goes where a flame is it should burn, especially when its in a confined area and compressed.. Any way Matt this works for me and I not going to lose any sleep wondering how it works. I once had a hole in my roof it let water in I tried tar and all kinds of stuff to no avail. One day I put on an old Ct. License plate with 2 nails and it stayed there for 8 years and never leaked again, The point of the story is I never went up on the roof to see how and why the patch worked. All I cared was the leak stopped. I am not being wise but that's how I see things..
03-07-2012 07:44 AM
matt167 I never said it couldn't work. It's not working by burning the hydrogen. could be as simple as throwing sensor values running it a little leaner than it should be. As long as it remains in range, there will be no code set...

Put it on a scanner with the setup, and then turn it off. see what sensor values change. you should see a change with the O2 sensor and possibly fuel trims if somthing's happening as you say it is.
03-07-2012 07:30 AM
rsfyj
I knew many out there used this device but didnt want the skeptics

Quote:
Originally Posted by pheobe green
thank you post it. Don't listen to the types that still think the Wright Brothers never Flew. This Hydrogen works it burns hotter than Gasoline. so you have to not go over board and hurt your valves.
>> to jump in with their calculators and sheets on papers saying it dont work, All anyone has to do is try it and see. many minds will be changed, I never said you could run the complete engine on hydrogen but what it does use helps me immensely on MPG.
03-07-2012 04:01 AM
matt167 The Wright brothers did fly, but 10 BTU is not hotter than 21k BTU.. Hydrogen in raw bottled form certinly does burn hotter, but not what is produced with the browns gas converters, given the advertised production figures.
03-06-2012 11:26 PM
pheobe green thank you post it. Don't listen to the types that still think the Wright Brothers never Flew. This Hydrogen works it burns hotter than Gasoline. so you have to not go over board and hurt your valves.
03-06-2012 10:12 PM
Dannyringo
Adiabatic Engine by Smokey Yunick

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsfyj
Some times in cold weather I run with no energy to it and nothing happens no increases what so ever. but as soon as I apply 12 volts to it it starts to bubble and the vacume lines sucks it right up
Just maybe your on to something...Check this out...in the early 80's Smokey Yunick developed a motor that was only 2 cylinders...He installed it into a Fiero...This car got 50 mpg and 0-60 in 5 seconds~! Gm gave him the car to work on and needless to say they did not pay him a nickle../They were spying on him by watching his patents...Well, he never gave him anything...Infact he pulled the motor out of the car and stored it in a corner....After he died he gave the motor to a family member, or friend and that person has it on display with the original motor now in another Fiero....GM said that he would put them out of business, because the Corvette would loose sales...So, they claimed that it produced NOX, but the fact of the matter, is that it did not...
There are videos on this car that Car Craft did back then on You Tube...
Adiabatic Engine, or Smokey Yunick and the Adiabatic Engine
03-05-2012 06:43 PM
rsfyj
No mileage increas with the electric off. It realy bubles with the voltage going to i

Some times in cold weather I run with no energy to it and nothing happens no increases what so ever. but as soon as I apply 12 volts to it it starts to bubble and the vacume lines sucks it right up
03-05-2012 06:39 PM
matt167 it might actually be shaking up the water going down the road and pulling it thru the vac line. it would work like water injection and can cool the intake charge and clean the engine.. unplug the electrical and see if it goes down.

The simple fact is, 10 BTU of hydrogen is not going to burn anything up
03-05-2012 06:33 PM
rsfyj
I dont have any more temp gas testing devices I sold them years ago

it would be interesting to see some exhaust temps with and then with out hydrogen just to see and also measure the OXygen content also.
03-05-2012 06:24 PM
rsfyj
Hydrogen Torches

Can get up to 6000 degrees according the the builders. thats hot
03-05-2012 06:23 PM
rsfyj
Doesnt matter

what makes it get better gas mileage the short of it is it got 14 to 18 mpg before I installed the hydrogen generator. I don't know what the process is once it gets to the combustion chamber I cant see it or test it It could be Chicken poop for all I know, But what ever it is it gives me 24 mpg at 60 mp hour an a trip. Others have said they lost valves because of added heat from to much Hydrogen gas, I run a conservative hook up so I don,t have that problem
03-05-2012 06:15 PM
matt167 Not really. on paper, hydrogen is 61k BTU per pound and gas is roughly 21k BTU per pound, but hydrogen is less dense, so when you put the 2 in the same space, gasoline is about double the BTU effectively..

Also, if you make 1 liter of hydrogen in 3 mins, and 1 cu/ft ( 28L ) of hydrogen yeilds 270 BTU, then your making less than 10 BTU every 3 mins..

You may be seeing a gain caused by the hydrogen generator, but it is not the cause of the hydrogen burning..
03-05-2012 04:42 PM
rsfyj
Too much

hydrogen can cook the valves it burns hotter than gas. some cars cant handle the hydrogen because of the ECM or computer what ever it has for control my 1995m Escort would not use it dont know why I tried many ways and still no go.
03-05-2012 02:03 PM
alittle1 I just turn on my flux capacitor and go into the future....... . . .
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