Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board - Reply to Topic
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Interior> windlace wrinkling problem
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Thread: windlace wrinkling problem Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
02-25-2014 05:12 PM
1930sedan How wide is a 30 model a rear end ?
01-27-2014 09:38 PM
DanTwoLakes As will I.
01-27-2014 06:32 PM
John long I agree with Dan. I am not a professional trimmer but no matter how you fold a piece of material, it can not be longer than the piece you folded.

If Billblyth has something to show us I will be more than willing to look at it.

John
01-27-2014 02:24 PM
DanTwoLakes The reality of it is that a yard of fabric, whether it's vinyl, fabric, or Ultraleather, is 36" wide and 54" long. No matter what happens, or how you fold that piece of fabric, the largest piece you can cut out of it is a little over 63" long, cut on a straight line, or if you cut an oval around the perimeter, it would be, at most, 15 feet long. 6 feet of that would be cut straight across the top and bottom of the yard of fabric, and 9 feet would be perfectly vertical, defeating the whole "cutting on a bias" concept. I suppose you could spiral around and use up the whole yard of vinyl by marking it progressively inside of the outside spiral, but to what purpose? The tighter the turns got the harder it would be to sew. That isn't bias cutting, marking it out would take a long time, and the result would be no different than one long piece of straight cut vinyl, but it would take 5 times as long to cut and sew. Wider strips, like would be needed for windlace, would take up twice as much fabric, be twice as much shorter, and would be even harder to sew.

Say you got 75 feet of regular welt cord out of the yard of vinyl by cutting it on a spiral. (I'm sure it would be a lot less) A yard of vinyl would be around 1944 square inches, and a straight strip of vinyl would be 112.5 square inches. Again, it would not make any sense to waste all that vinyl to make a welt that isn't going to be any better at turning a corner than a straight strip.
01-27-2014 08:11 AM
John long
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billblyth View Post
Not cutting it on a bias......using old japanese fold and cut..its probably on Google been known by trimmers for many years just as hand folding diamonds for tufting. Have a great week
I have not been able to find this or anyone who can tell me how you could do it.

Please educate us..........

John
01-27-2014 07:36 AM
DanTwoLakes I did read what you wrote, you said you cut all your welts on the bias or a curve. ( "I always cut mine on a curve or bias...problem goes away" ) Sorry, I still say you can't cut 20 feet of welt or more from a yard of fabric without splices, no matter how you fold the fabric or what angle or curve you cut it on. Show me.
01-26-2014 10:14 PM
Billblyth Not cutting it on a bias...didnt say I was if you will read what I wrote..Just asked a question...using old japanese fold and cut..its probably on Google been known by trimmers for many years just as hand folding diamonds for tufting. Have a great week
01-26-2014 04:51 PM
DanTwoLakes No, I can't do that and neither can you, not without any splices. Not if you cut the fabric on a true 45 degree bias. How about a tutorial showing how to do it?
01-26-2014 01:50 PM
Billblyth I could see by the photo it was not soft pliable material..there for my comment on Bias...All is well 2lakes...you have just another 10 or so years to catch me. I am sure like me, you can cut 20 feet of welt cord vinyl without any splices from 1 yard of vinyl..maybe more depending on how you fold the yardage
Best regards
Bill
01-26-2014 10:40 AM
DanTwoLakes Bias cutting may have been necessary 55 years ago when vinyl was stiff and unforgiving, but now days it's not necessary. The new vinyls are soft and pliable and have been for a long time. If you want to waste 5 yards of vinyl cutting it on the bias to make windlace, be my guest. But hey, I've only been doing this for 40 years so what do I know?
01-25-2014 03:10 PM
Billblyth
Quote:
Originally Posted by duh57 View Post
Hey man, I have won many grand national bestt interiors awards. So it takes a little more material to make it almost perfect , so what ! You can cut it on the Bias at 15 feet and get wrinkel free, been hhere and done that! sorry if i cant explain as Dan does, just trying to help

Here...here!!! I agree but hey, I've only been doing custom interiors for 55 years so what the hell do I know?
01-17-2014 06:27 AM
UJSLOST I think I understand now.
01-17-2014 04:29 AM
DanTwoLakes Bias cutting just means cutting the material on an angle. The idea is that by cutting on the bias, the fabric will turn a corner more easily. In 40 years of doing upholstery work, I've never cut any welt on a bias, and have never had a problem.
01-16-2014 06:57 PM
UJSLOST yeah so Im still not following the whole idea of what bias cutting is. someone got a video to help out?
01-15-2014 08:50 AM
Billblyth I always cut mine on a curve or bias...problem goes away
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.