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05-26-2017 02:12 PM
beodawn
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Thanks ) I appreciate the help
05-26-2017 02:09 PM
MARTINSR I don't know if I grasp what you are saying, but just read the first posts and get the idea of what happens here. I do know that I looked up what the hinge looks like on that truck and it is a little bit of a problem because the hinge is open in the middle and the socket can crush the door instead of bending the hinge and mounting.

Just read the post, look at the photos and diagrams and get the IDEA of what it is doing, don't worry about details, get the IDEA of how this works and you can make it happen.

Brian
05-26-2017 02:06 PM
beodawn
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Oh for heaven's sake lol.

Going back over the beginning of the thread, I think I see the problem... I was putting the socket in the wrong place on the hinge. I was putting the socket on the "inside" of the hinge, closest to the back end of the truck.

The pictures show placing the socket on the side of the hinge closest to the front of the truck.

I don't know if that would make a difference but I guess that could be it.

What do you think?
05-26-2017 02:00 PM
beodawn
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2002 ford explorer xlt
05-26-2017 01:51 PM
MARTINSR What make model and year is this again that you are working on?

Brian
05-26-2017 01:49 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by beodawn View Post
I thought that I could no longer see the hinges when I close the door but I was wrong.

The door itself seems to be seated too far out from the door frame. The wind did that, not trying the sockets. The sockets just didn't seem to change anything sadly.

With the door sitting (while closed) about an 3/8 of an inch too far out from the door frame and body (sort of like when you see a hydraulic door in a movie come straight out from the wall before tilting up toward the ceiling; the door when closed is straight out from the door frame by about 3/8 of an inch); that seems to me that the hinges aren't closing tight enough.

I think that when the wind blew the door, it "opened" the hinges too much, like what putting a socket in the hinge and closing the door slowly would have done. At least I think that's right.

I think that I can solve the issue if I can get the hinges to become more compact instead of expanding them but I am uncertain how to do that.

I know that is the exact opposite of your suggestions but I was hoping maybe you could point me in the right direction. Maybe .

Or if I am way off, that would be good to know too lol
You are missing the point here. Go back and look at the first posts in this thread and study them. "Out" is forward, the hinge pin gets bent forward, yes it could be "out" bit more likely went forward and then it bend the fender in and that is making the door look like it's out.

Look at the photos again, your socket may be damaging the pillar or door INSTEAD of pushing the door back where it belongs.

Brian
05-26-2017 01:26 PM
beodawn
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I thought that I could no longer see the hinges when I close the door but I was wrong.

The door itself seems to be seated too far out from the door frame. The wind did that, not trying the sockets. The sockets just didn't seem to change anything sadly.

With the door sitting (while closed) about an 3/8 of an inch too far out from the door frame and body (sort of like when you see a hydraulic door in a movie come straight out from the wall before tilting up toward the ceiling; the door when closed is straight out from the door frame by about 3/8 of an inch); that seems to me that the hinges aren't closing tight enough.

I think that when the wind blew the door, it "opened" the hinges too much, like what putting a socket in the hinge and closing the door slowly would have done. At least I think that's right.

I think that I can solve the issue if I can get the hinges to become more compact instead of expanding them but I am uncertain how to do that.

I know that is the exact opposite of your suggestions but I was hoping maybe you could point me in the right direction. Maybe .

Or if I am way off, that would be good to know too lol
05-26-2017 12:59 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by beodawn View Post
Hello again,

I tried the same size sockets in the top and bottom hinges but I noticed that the door was once again lower at the back of the door, making it the same problem that it was a couple of months ago. I can't really remember: when the door is low on the back end, do I put a socket in the top hinge or the bottom hinge to raise the bottom of the door?
On the lower hinge, that will push it back raising the rear do the door.

Brian
05-26-2017 12:48 PM
beodawn
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Hello again,

I tried the same size sockets in the top and bottom hinges but I noticed that the door was once again lower at the back of the door, making it the same problem that it was a couple of months ago. I can't really remember: when the door is low on the back end, do I put a socket in the top hinge or the bottom hinge to raise the bottom of the door?
05-26-2017 11:17 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by beodawn View Post
So putting a socket (same size in both hinge) and then slowly closing the door should work. Thanks. I did not want to mess something up by accident lol.

That piece is called a checking strap? Can those be bought at stores like auto zone? or would I have to go to a dealer?
A "Check strap," it's only going to be at the dealer or a wrecking yard.

It's called a "Check strap" because years ago it was a "strap" literally. Here is a Model A and you can see this strap that held the door from opening too far.



Brian
05-26-2017 10:59 AM
beodawn
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So putting a socket (same size in both hinge) and then slowly closing the door should work. Thanks. I did not want to mess something up by accident lol.

That piece is called a checking strap? Can those be bought at stores like auto zone? or would I have to go to a dealer?
05-26-2017 10:44 AM
MARTINSR The door is spung, it's the same as before, it's sprung forward.

You REALLY need to put a new "Check strap", the thing that holds the door from swinging too far, you REALLY need to put a new one.

Brian
05-26-2017 10:29 AM
beodawn
First off Thanks. Secondly, another problem as "popped" up

First off thank you so much for your help during my previous post from a couple of months ago. I thought I had posted that your suggestions on how to fix the door did work perfectly (Walmart refused to fix the door long story short and in truth I ended up having all sorts of problems with managers in that walmart over even simple issues like returns ever since so I refuse to go there now...but the door was fixed).

Funny thing that though... when walmart did what they did to the door, a small device below the bottom hindge, the piece that keeps the door open and from flying open too far) shattered too.

That was not an issue, I was just safe with the door opening and closing, until yesterday. I opened the door to go into a store and the wind whipped the door out of my hands.

I don't believe (although I am guessing and going by "look") but the hinges look like that haven't moved (I could be wrong but the door looks to be "even" on the top and bottom with the door space when I try to close the door.

The catch, again, is that when I open the door, the front driver's side panel (on the driver's side of the engine) buckles in, toward the engine itself.

The last time, the door was hanging low and the back end and I used the tools suggested and it moved back into place fine, although I had to get a dent kit after using the socket in the hinge to bend the front panel into place to let the door close (it only took one try at that though and it has worked perfectly until yesterday).

I wish I could take a picture but my phone's charging port died yesterday too.

I was seeing about a 1/4 inch door's hinges when the door was closed when looking at the gap where the hinges meet the front panel so it was a decent size gap that I had to bend back into place. I tried using the dent repair spoon and I can admit that it did move the panel almost all the way to the correct spot.

The problem is that I think i have used the spoon as much as it will work to move the panel into place.

Now you can't see the hinges but when I open the door the panel and door still meet enough that I have to use the spoon every time to open the door enough to get inside. If I could move the door back, toward the back of the truck, even a 1/8th of an inch, I honestly believe that it would be perfect again.

Funny thing is that in my head, I can't figure out what I need to do to the hinges to move the door toward the back of the truck.

Like I said, the top of the door and the bottom of the door when closing it, seem to be even with the door space (the body frame that the door sits into when it is closed) (sometimes I use the wrong terminology, I am a little bit of a novice, I know a some but want/need to know more lol). So whatever I do to the top hinge, I believe has to be done to the bottom hinge but what that "ever" is, I am technically lost on.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

This truck has been a ton of trouble but it's all we have for now lol (I had to change out the entire steering column and steering wheel this week too because the gear shift's column shifter broke twice (after being taken to two different repair shops to try to get it fixed and the second shop wanting to charge me $1,000 to fix it a third time, I fixed it myself for $60 and it's working like a charm). I also have to change a worn drive belt on it tomorrow. I have changed out the alternator, starter, battery, fuel pump, hoses (of course). Every month it seems to be something new lol.
04-19-2017 03:48 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by MrsGill4 View Post
I actually followed those steps and I remebered my dad teaching me this as a kid when those Minnesota blizzards had strong winds!Im very proud(my hubby not so proud he worked on it for two days)It took me 4 minutes.Thank you!!
LOLOL, I love it, you made my day! Your dad rocks!


Brian
04-19-2017 03:43 PM
MrsGill4
Thank you

I actually followed those steps and I remebered my dad teaching me this as a kid when those Minnesota blizzards had strong winds!Im very proud(my hubby not so proud he worked on it for two days)It took me 4 minutes.Thank you!!
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