|08-25-2012 06:10 AM|
|08-24-2012 10:24 PM|
Have you checked into having the car shipped to you. Might not be as expensive as you think, plus no waste of time and money fixing the 4 banger just to swap it out later.
My choice, for a well balanced car, would be a Buick V6, with the 86-87 Grand National Turbo and EFI, great power, very good mpg potential.
Dont forget to reinforce the chassis with subframe connectors, anything more than a stock 305 will start to twist the chassis with any kind of spirited driving.
|08-24-2012 10:11 PM|
|vinniekq2||v-6 vega would be a compromise for economy and power.I wonder if a cobalt 4 cyl could be swapped in there? east west conversions for the northstar are popular.If a cobalt 2.2 could be put in there then ,you would get great mileage and decent power|
|08-24-2012 09:46 PM|
if it was me
I would look for a V8 car since it would have all the upgrade parts and pieces. V 8 cars usually have bigger brakes, suspension pieces. I used monza brackets for something when I did an engine swap PS, or alt or something for clearance , keep your DD stock,
|08-24-2012 05:10 PM|
|Hank_The_Tank15||right but i am going to have to drive it for a year or two before i have the money to do the swap. Unless I get a better paying job but i dont think that will happen anytime soon. I am still going to college at the moment and paying out of pocket. I am plannin on puttin about 4-5G's in it right now. its in bad shape but 5G doesnt go a long way no adays|
|08-24-2012 05:01 PM|
The parts you would install for the small motor will be useless later after installing the v8.
|08-24-2012 03:29 PM|
sounds good. thanks for the help. I'llhavemy grandpa look at it for me when he has the chance. The car is in WA and i am in WI and when i have enough money to put it all back together i'll fly out there but I am going to be buying the parts as i have the money for them so when i get there all the pasrtsfor the car will be there. Just a little idea of what it looks like its the hatchback monza but the front grill and bumper is from a 86,87 camora with single head lights on either side and the back end has a 80's rear spoiler to square the back end up. its yellow but it will be repainted i have no idea of what i will paint it but it'll be lookin good.
Should I worry about any type of air intake system for it right now or wait until i put the V8 in it? we have to redo the exhaust so i will fix that but wont go crazy on it. just so it sounds good and helps the performance a lil.
|08-24-2012 03:15 PM|
|poncho62||Just because an engine has been sitting doesnt necessarily mean it needs to be rebuilt...Do a compression test, that will tell you basically what condition it is in....Might just need plugs, cap, wires, carb rebuilt etc|
|08-24-2012 03:08 PM|
|Hank_The_Tank15||Pics will come dont worry about that My first goal is getting it home which hopefully will be within the next few months. the body has some damage to it. but i can take care of that no problem. when i get more info on engine specs, transmission, rear end stuff i'll be sure to put it on here right away. thanks.|
|08-24-2012 02:57 PM|
Interesting footnote; the Monza was slated at one time to have a Wankel engine in the chassis.
There are plenty of hop up parts around for those 4cyl's. They were used in boats, mini sprints etc. I believe there was also an SCCA class that the Monza raced in and probably in Pony Stocks alongside the Pinto.
V8 Monzas are far more popular; and while a lot of the engine hop ups won't help, perhaps looking at the suspension upgrades used then for something like a "DeKon Phase 1" Lee Dykstra and Horst Kwetch (De Kon) built some killer cars in the late 70s; much like todays KaTech and Lingenfelter LeMans cars.
Cool project, post pics
|08-24-2012 02:55 PM|
|Hank_The_Tank15||its not running the engine has been sitting for a couple years. the engine is in good condition but needs to be rebuilt because of sitting for soo long. the V8 isfor when i get it back home. that'll be my next project after i get it home.|
|08-24-2012 02:50 PM|
|poncho62||If the 4 cylinder is running decent, I would tune it up, change the oil and drive it home....starting to mess with v8s etc when you need the car to travel is going to get you in over your head.|
|08-24-2012 02:43 PM|
Im rebuilding my 151 L4 it has a metal block in it everything else is stock. just needing some pointer on what should be added to it for performance not needing alot at this moment just enough to get me from Washington State to Wisconsin. It has a 4 speed manual transmission. should i do anything to the suspension or shocks? I am replacing brake cylinders and all that stuff. but needing to know what else i should at to it. Im new to mechanics but i have been around it all my life but never had the people to show what to do with it. thanks for the comments and wisdom you are sharing with me.
|08-24-2012 02:10 PM|
|Hank_The_Tank15||Yeah my parents had one before and i loved it but it is prettty heavy it had a 305 v8 in it but everything else as far as i know was stock.. I'm not planning on goin crazy with this ca I am just wanting enough muscle in it to take it to the track on the weekends and have a little fun in town. How much would you think all of this woujld cost. I can do this in stages. But first i have to get it home. which is about 2,000 miles away in washington state. Just found out that the engine is the 151 L4 staright with a metal block in it. what i am thinking aboutdoingis just fixing that engine and then bring it back home to WI then grab the V8 but idk if i would do the V8 for gas reasons i might do a V6 but if i did what kind of V6 would you prefer?|
|08-24-2012 01:19 PM|
This is a well travelled path go see this link GM H-Body V8 Conversion FAQ: By Bob Gumm
Keep in mind that the V8 adds almost 300 pounds on the front end. This isn't a great handling car to start with it doesn't like power added while turning. So you've got to be careful with it as it can get out of control faster than your heart can get to its next beat. It takes a lot of work to get this thing balanced up with weight distribution, suspension and brake mods to handle the V8 swap. The front end can benefit a lot by using an aluminum intake and heads, headers instead of manifolds. This can take 100 pounds off the nose. If it has AC get rid of it that take another 50 pounds off. Lower the suspension about 1.5 inches, use high pressure shocks, install beefy anti-sway bars front and rear, run the fattest wheel and tire that will fit.
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