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09-14-2012 07:26 AM
timothale
budget suspension

There ar quite a few F 100,s with Jaguar XJ 6 suspensions, easy to swap in the front and rear suspension crosmembers, I have bought Jag setups for $ 100-125 we pull. do more searches for step by step info on various web sites. ( F100 jag suspension) (jaguar suspension swap)
09-14-2012 07:25 AM
chewmaize
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Originally Posted by timothale View Post
I don't know about your your oil filter, clearance issues. The FE factory filter casting for trucks pointed the filter sideways, the car filter points down. Ford Vans with 460's have a filter mounting casting that you can rotate as needed for more clearance, the van casting will work on anything that uses a ph 8A oil filter, mabe even and some Mopars that use Ford Filters. Some Heavy duty 460 vans and trucks also came factory with an engine oil cooler. If you get a 460 the first thing you want to do is get a double rolller timing chain kit and install it straight up. Factory smog years retarded the stock cam and lost about 30 HP.. the stock timing chains stretch and retard ign and cam after 10 to 20 K miles. A 460 single diaphram distributor vacuum can is adjustable. pull the hose and insert an 1/8 allen wrench to fine tune the advance.
Thanks man. That's going in the notes...HIGHLIGHTED. lol
09-14-2012 07:21 AM
timothale
460 oil filter.

I don't know about your your oil filter, clearance issues. The FE factory filter casting for trucks pointed the filter sideways, the car filter points down. Ford Vans with 460's have a filter mounting casting that you can rotate as needed for more clearance, the van casting will work on anything that uses a ph 8A oil filter, mabe even and some Mopars that use Ford Filters. Some Heavy duty 460 vans and trucks also came factory with an engine oil cooler. If you get a 460 the first thing you want to do is get a double rolller timing chain kit and install it straight up. Factory smog years retarded the stock cam and lost about 30 HP.. the stock timing chains stretch and retard ign and cam after 10 to 20 K miles. A 460 single diaphram distributor vacuum can is adjustable. pull the hose and insert an 1/8 allen wrench to fine tune the advance.
09-14-2012 07:03 AM
chewmaize I'm definently going to take my time. I'm making 2 different "budgets". One will be with "new" or special built parts (engine/tranny, etc.) the other with "used" and picked parts. I'm a very meticulus person, and very persistent also. I'll be giving myself a 2 year window to do the build. Ya'll don't know this, but I'm a disabled Veteran, so I'm home about 90% of the time. No problem as far as my time restraints are concerned. I'm pricing used Caddys and LTDs as well as pricing new. Learning a lot and enjoying the hell out of it....and I haven't even put wrench to bolt yet. Thanks again for all of the advice guys and gals, I really do appreciate it.
09-14-2012 06:37 AM
delawarebill
i'm agree'n with W-nuts

don't blow the wad on a motor and your project will sit.. but u got a really nice motor on an engine stand...
i would also look for a running ltd or something like it. if i sell my bucket that's what i'm doing on a truck.. but i have a friend that has a running ltd for $700.. thats for the whole car.. look at your options and do the best for u...
09-13-2012 03:42 PM
RWENUTS Even tho it would be nice to have a crate 460 I wouldn't go that way on my first build. Turnkey only means it's got a carb, distributor etc. Ready to fire up. Cam already broke in etc.
THen you need a tranny, torque convertor, starter, motor and tranny mounts, headers and exhaust, a shifter, a better rad, maybe better brakes, rebuild the suspension, better rearend, driveshaft etc etc. Add another 5 grand.
It adds up in a hurry and becomes a massive budget beater.
Keep doing research, take lots of time, go to car shows and cruise nights and look at similiar set-ups in trucks like yours. You'll be farther ahead.
I'd look for an old LTD with a 460 auto and build from there.
If you buy the big motor for 5 grand then odds are a year or two from now you'll have a big motor sitting in the corner and no truck built. That happens all the time.
Save your money. Do it right!!
09-13-2012 03:27 PM
chewmaize I found a company that builds what sounds to be a pretty solid 460. I'm going to start a new thread on the topic, but wanted to say something in this threat. The company is Phoenix Engines out of Arizona. They build a "Midnight 460 Crate Engine" that's pretty modest as far as price and what I've ran across. $5090 "TurnKey"....so I'm assuming that's bolt it in and go. I might go their route on the engine, not I'm going to search out a Tranny. This is actually a lot of fun!
09-13-2012 01:26 PM
RWENUTS Use this search from craigslist. Covers a big area around you.
SearchTempest Online Classifieds Search - All the Classifieds. One Search.
09-13-2012 12:22 PM
chewmaize I did a little more research, and I'm leaning with you Jim. 460 and keep'n it Ford is probably the way I'm going to go. Any good sites for a reasonable engine and/or tranny?
09-13-2012 11:19 AM
Mr. P-Body Cross-breeding is okay, but the Caddy engines are getting scarce and expensive. Since Ford already makes a world-class torque monster (460), might as well go with it. If you really like that "500" number, it's easy enough to make a 501 out of a 460 with just pistons and rods and machine work. The factory nodular iron crank is plenty strong for the task. It can be offset-ground to make 4.14" srtroke with BBC rod journals.

Everyone knows I'm a Pontiac "bigot", but I do like a certain level of
"purism". I can see crossing brands if your brand of choice (body) doesn't offer an adequate engine family. That's not the case here.

Lastly, I fully understand, a person wants what they want because they want it. That may sound funny, but we tell all our customers: "It's YOUR money. You tell US how to spend it". The GM swap wouldn't be "easy", but not insurmountable, either.

Jim
09-13-2012 09:32 AM
RWENUTS Here's a couple links for engine dimensions and mount options. THe sky's the limit. Pick your poison.
Since it's your first foray into 4 wheels you might want to stick with a stockish type setup. Put a ford motor in. Go hogwild on your next project.
Good luck Grasshopper!! LOL!!
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09-13-2012 09:15 AM
chewmaize How big of a deal is it to put a 473/500 in? Would there be a lot of cutting to line her up? Please remember, I'm ignorant with 4 wheels and I have no ideal what to do. Yes, I'll be getting a couple of friends to help, but the more info I can get in here the less stupid I'll sound to the guys helping.
09-13-2012 09:03 AM
matt167 The sky is the limit. If using factory parts you can go to a 427 in an FE platform, 429/460 in a 335 platform or any type of stroker in between, and because Ford used FE's and 335's in that chassis, it is a bolt in affair. Cad 472/500 would be cool too.
09-13-2012 08:00 AM
RWENUTS And they make hop up parts for them now. Intakes, better cams, headers etc.
And for ultimate stealth paint FORD on the top of the valve covers! LOL!!!
Here's a link for parts.
A good reason to use a caddy is the front mount distributor. Much easier to swap.
http://www.cadillacperformanceparts.com/
09-13-2012 07:55 AM
chewmaize The Caddy engine is interesting RWENUTS. It has that "interesting factor" to it. Would be kinda cool to say, "It's a 65 with a 500 in it".
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