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12-21-2012 08:57 PM
69 widetrack It's rare to see two painter's that paint exactly the same way, yet often the results are similar...You like a 1.5 tip...Move fast and probably use 50% to 60% overlap....I like a 1.3 for most clears...I overlap 75% to 80% and have been told that I don't put clear down that fast...it's not right or wrong, it's what works for you.

Your right about trying different or new products before spraying the product on what matters, this way you learn what the product does and what's required to get the finish your looking for.

Ray
12-21-2012 08:04 PM
carolinacustoms
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
Everybody's going to say the 1.4, I hope to try the SPI product line shortly myself and I'll try both, the 1.3 and the 1.4. I've been told that I paint different than most painter's so you need to do what works for you.

Ray

HAHA I could not agree more. Sometimes recommendations are just that and you have to do what works for you. Like I said earlier I spray my current 4:1 clear with a 1.5 Sharpe and love it. It sprays out slick and wet and requires very little buffing. However I learned to paint on commercial trucks and heavy equipment so I am used to painting fast and hard. If you don't keep moving you will have it dripping on the floor lol But it works for me. Try it on some old pieces or masking paper to get a feel for it before jumping on something that matters. Good luck either way
12-21-2012 07:02 PM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by lukeembry View Post
Anyone spraying the universal through a sata 3000 help 1.4? Just seeing if it sprays well through that gun. I also have a 3000rp 1.3. Trying to decide which to use.
Everybody's going to say the 1.4, I hope to try the SPI product line shortly myself and I'll try both, the 1.3 and the 1.4. I've been told that I paint different than most painter's so you need to do what works for you.

Ray
12-21-2012 06:22 PM
lukeembry Anyone spraying the universal through a sata 3000 help 1.4? Just seeing if it sprays well through that gun. I also have a 3000rp 1.3. Trying to decide which to use.
12-20-2012 08:41 PM
carolinacustoms
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Originally Posted by texastomeh View Post
carolina',

If you don't get any other replies, contact Barry K. at the phone number given on the SPI website. SOOOOOOOOPER guy to talk with and will help you any way he can.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

Tom

Thanks, I have been talking with Barry about trying the SPI product line and didn't really even think of recommended tip size. I just happened across this thread and figured I would try to get some input from someone who had tried it. I know most people would say a 1.5 is a bit excessive , but its just what I learned to spray with and it gives good results.
12-20-2012 08:38 PM
texastomeh carolina',

If you don't get any other replies, contact Barry K. at the phone number given on the SPI website. SOOOOOOOOPER guy to talk with and will help you any way he can.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

Tom
12-20-2012 08:12 PM
carolinacustoms I know this is an older post, but I was wondering if anyone had ever sprayed the 1:1 or 4:1 SPI with a non-hvlp 1.5? I have a 1.5 that I LOVE and have really good results spraying other 4:1 clears with but I have never used the SPI. I hope to try it soon and the only 1.4 gun I have I use for base only. Anyone have any insight as to how well the 1.5 may work? Or go for it and see lol. I attached a pic of a hood I sprayed today with the 1.5. I will leave the name brand out but it is a value line of a major brand $100 a gallon 4:1 clear. Thanks in advance
10-01-2012 02:58 PM
62galaxiguy
devillbiss plus

sprays great.not hvlp.
10-01-2012 09:38 AM
texastomeh Guys,

You have no idea how much I appreciate this tips and comments!!

I have ordered mine with the 1.3 and the 1.4 fluid nozzles.

I also ordered a digital diaphram regulator separately.

NEW Astro Pneumatic Tool Company Digital Diaphragm Regulator 2661 | eBay

Thanx,

Tom
10-01-2012 08:35 AM
Irelands child
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Originally Posted by oldBodyman View Post
"FYI the iwata lph400 are guns that need proper setting and new way of spraying. They take less air and need to be sprayed closer to the panel and at a slower pace. I have one and have mix.feeling for theme I can sometimes get great results and sometimes get really bad results. So practice and practice before you attempt a whole car.

Setting for iwata are 18 to 20 psi Intel, 3 turns showing on the fluid needle 5-6 inches from panels. And medium movement."

The air cap says 16psi inlet = 10 psi for HVLP or LVLP, the gun can handle 300psi, so you can adjust it to fit your personal preference unless you're LEGALLY REQUIRED to use HVLP. Check your local air quality control board first.

Some clears will like the 1.3 tip, some need the 1.4 tip, I have not used any clears that need a 1.5 tip.

It's a great gun, personal favorite for clears, tone it down as low as you can use, it really does save on materials quite a bit. It puts the paint on the panel, not in the filters.

Have fun with it.

I have actually done spotting in of color as well as clear as low as 10-12psig, but seldom have I used over 15-18psig for any paints. It's what works for you and the great thing with this gun. The SPI forum has a lot of info as well.
10-01-2012 08:00 AM
oldBodyman "FYI the iwata lph400 are guns that need proper setting and new way of spraying. They take less air and need to be sprayed closer to the panel and at a slower pace. I have one and have mix.feeling for theme I can sometimes get great results and sometimes get really bad results. So practice and practice before you attempt a whole car.

Setting for iwata are 18 to 20 psi Intel, 3 turns showing on the fluid needle 5-6 inches from panels. And medium movement."

The air cap says 16psi inlet = 10 psi for HVLP or LVLP, the gun can handle 300psi, so you can adjust it to fit your personal preference unless you're LEGALLY REQUIRED to use HVLP. Check your local air quality control board first.

Some clears will like the 1.3 tip, some need the 1.4 tip, I have not used any clears that need a 1.5 tip.

It's a great gun, personal favorite for clears, tone it down as low as you can use, it really does save on materials quite a bit. It puts the paint on the panel, not in the filters.

Have fun with it.
10-01-2012 07:03 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by texastomeh View Post
Well, to be completely honest - it's a "preemptive strike" on my part by spending some of their inheritance!

While I love them dearly, I want them to be a little sad at my passing; not too busy enjoying counting the zeroes on the estate settlement checks!!

Tom
They wont have that problem with mine ,theres only one "o"......and no numbers at all...LOL
10-01-2012 06:59 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by texastomeh View Post
Thanks for all the comments, recommendations and advice!

I've decided on the IWATA LPH400-LV gun with the Silver Air Cap. It is overkill and I will probably never do it justice, but figure "what-the-H*LL" - at my age I feel that I deserve it, so I'm gonna' "treat" myself!

At least I will not be wondering if I could have done better with a "good" gun!!

Thanx again,

Tom
Thats a great gun,thats what my 1.4 tip gun is and my 1.3 is a sata,I didnt want to name the brands and make you think the name was everything.
09-30-2012 11:55 PM
angel85lx Setting for iwata are 18 to 20 psi Intel, 3 turns showing on the fluid needle 5-6 inches from panels. And medium movement.
09-30-2012 11:52 PM
angel85lx FYI the iwata lph400 are guns that need proper setting and new way of spraying. They take less air and need to be sprayed closer to the panel and at a slower pace. I have one and have mix.feeling for theme I can sometimes get great results and sometimes get really bad results. So practice and practice before you attempt a whole car.
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