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09-30-2012 06:08 AM
DanTwoLakes A servo motor is not going to fix a bad vibration. The machine probably has a bent or broken shaft of some kind, which is why the handwheel won't turn. They were probably doing you a favor by not taking your money to try and fix it. If you can take it back, do so and keep looking for a good one.
09-30-2012 05:35 AM
dcygan I took the Singer in to a shop on Friday and was told (without even touching it) that it would be between $300-$500 to fix not including parts . I suspect they didn't want to be bothered with it. Perhaps a servo motor might help. I did get the hand wheel to turn a bit so there's hope there, but it's probably best to return it.
09-29-2012 07:31 AM
DanTwoLakes You need to take the Singer to an industrial sewing machine mechanic and find out if it is even worth trying to fix. None of what you describe should be happening. It's silly to waste any more time trying to make adjustments to something that might not be adjustable any more.
09-29-2012 05:30 AM
dcygan I too am realizing that it's not likely that I'll find any feet for the Pfaff so I suppose I'll have to make my own.

I've been fiddling with the Singer, but I still can't get the hand wheel to turn to change the thread length. There's a lot of lint buildup that I've removed and it seems like there's a lot of metal particles in it, thus implying that it's been used to some extent without lubrication. Also, I backed off on the presser foot spring pressure so the foot has less impact when operating, but it seems like there's still too much pressure. When in operation the vibration is so great that the entire machine and table shake violently. The foot also leaves waffled marks in the material and that too implies there's too much pressure. Is there another spring that I need to relieve the tension? I also believe that the throat plate may not be the correct one for this machine as it creates a raised platform, about 1/16" higher than the adjacent bed-slides. Any thoughts?
09-28-2012 06:51 AM
DanTwoLakes There probably is not a welt foot available for that set-up. That looks like something set up especially for one operation in a garment factory. If I were you, I'd get the Singer 211 working. That will be a better machine for auto upholstery, and parts are easy to find and a lot cheaper.
09-27-2012 01:09 PM
dcygan Yes and thanks. Any leads for a 1/4" welting foot will be greatly appreciated.
09-27-2012 12:39 PM
DanTwoLakes Remember, cording foot is not what you want, you want a 1/4" welt foot. They are two different things. I really don't know where you'd get one however. I will keep looking.
09-27-2012 11:57 AM
dcygan And here are some close up photos of my 467R.
09-27-2012 11:53 AM
dcygan Attached is a copy of the image for one of the new presser feet that's shown in the photos above and here's the description: Part No. 91-026473-05
Pfaff Industrial Presser Feet - Model(s): 434, 436, 560, 461, 462, 463, 467, 469, 470, 480, 483, 490 - Right Cording Foot.
09-27-2012 11:47 AM
dcygan Thank you for the clarification. Do you have any suggestions as to where I can find cording feet that will fit?
09-27-2012 07:02 AM
DanTwoLakes I learned how to sew on a Pfaff 1245, and none of those feet are welt feet. In the first picture, the piece in the middle and the piece to the right look like they may be a part of a zipper foot or cording foot, one left and one right, but I don't know for sure. The piece on the left side is part of a hinged cording or zipper foot. The picture in the middle is of a presser foot, which is flat on the bottom. I think you are confused by the term "cording foot". A cording foot isn't used with welt cord, and does not do the same thing a welt foot does. A welt foot is hollowed out both on the left side of the middle part of the foot, and on the right side of the large part of the foot to guide the welt cord inside the fabric through the sewing machine.
Here are pictures of two welt feet. The one with the bigger groove that goes the entire length of the bottom of the larger part is a 3/8" welt foot, and the other one is a 1/4" welt foot that would be used for most auto upholstery. The 1/4" foot has a cut out at the rear to be able to turn 90 degree corners easier. I have welt feet that go from 3/16" up to 3/4".
09-27-2012 03:58 AM
dcygan Attached are photos of the feet for the Pfaff. In all of the photos the presser foot that came with the machine is on the left (which has 184 stamped into it) and the new ones on the right. The first photo also shows the foot that I modified (in the middle). The last photo shows the narrower attachment groove than the one that came with the machine, which also fits very well. Is it possible the presser bar was modified to accept another type of presser foot system?
09-26-2012 05:35 PM
DanTwoLakes The 467 should have a welt foot almost exactly like your Singer 211. They did not sell you the right thing. Take some pictures if you can.
09-26-2012 03:57 PM
dcygan Yes, you're correct that the Pfaff has three shafts, one for the needle, one for the presser foot and one for the walking foot. Here are the part numbers for the feet I purchased from Ultimate Sew and Vac [91-026473-05 and 91-026474-05. here's the link to the page: Industrial Presser Feet* Commercial Sewing Machine Parts
They assured me that they are correct, but they are not, they are completely wrong. Any suggestions? I could take photos if that would help.

As for the Singer I was finally able to get the hand wheel to move, but it wasn't easy. It seems like something is wrong.
Thanks again,
09-26-2012 03:13 PM
DanTwoLakes Tilt the 211 back when you are trying to change stitch length and see what is going on underneath.

The 467, either the 467 or the 467R, will use the same welt feet. If it is a walking foot machine, it has three shafts. One shaft is for the needle only, and the other two shafts hold the middle part of the foot and the outside part of the foot which are separate pieces just like the Singer 211.
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