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10-01-2012 01:33 PM
MARTINSR No, unfortunatly I am not going, I would LOVE to though! Hey, you driving of flying? You could stop by and say hello on the way!

The thing with the guys who are dying to make these horrid mistakes it is up to us to tell them why they shouldn't, it isn't to say "Go for it so you learn", that is just wrong if you ask me. To let the guy cut his arm off while cutting a tree down wrong, just to learn a lesson! No, we need to tell him how to use the saw, or to simply put the damn thing down and hire a professional to do the job so he doesn't get hurt.

Brian
10-01-2012 01:11 PM
Bad Rat I had a young "whipper snapper" call me recently about doing a 65 Nova,, cutting the floorboards out etc,,, and putting it on some cobbled up frame, kinda like this guy,,, I went and looked at the car, ( it was a pile of rust looking for a place to crumble)
I listened to all his ideas, custon art Morrison chassis,$$$$$ blown 572 BBC etc,$$$$$,,so right away figured out he was a dreamer,, ( he detailed cars for 8$ a hr)
I tryed to let him down easy,, to not discourage him from giving up,, but he wasn't about to come down off his cloud 9 anytime soon,
anything is possable,," except the impossable"
we were ALL dreamers at one time I'm sure, I know I certainly was,,
I'd be ashamed to show you guys some of the messes I made as a youngster,, stilll making them too,,,

BRIAN Are you going to the CHRR this Yr?? I'll be there,,, sure would like to meet you
10-01-2012 11:22 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by Chopt 48 View Post
All too many people would rather cobble something together trying to save a few bucks (I've been guilty) rather than saving up and doing it right.
Often the same guy who tells you he can't afford a 1500 custom built subframe will easily spring for a set of billet wheels and matching tires that cost twice that and never flinch at that price.
Or the simple FACT that buying the wrong frame, rebuilding it and having to buy new parts on the car like the radiator because it hits the frame or some goofy stuff like that you end up saving NOTHING. It would have been cheaper to build the thing right.

Brian
10-01-2012 09:18 AM
Chopt 48
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
I can not imagine what a cobbled up mess that Nova with an S10 frame would be like! Those cars are sooooo sweet, what a shame it would be. And how easy it would be to make a nice frame from scratch under it that looks like it belongs there.

Brian
All too many people would rather cobble something together trying to save a few bucks (I've been guilty) rather than saving up and doing it right.
Often the same guy who tells you he can't afford a 1500 custom built subframe will easily spring for a set of billet wheels and matching tires that cost twice that and never flinch at that price.
09-30-2012 10:34 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by Chopt 48 View Post
And reason enough that Threads should automatically lock after six months of inactivity on all forums and only be reopened by the original poster.

I can't see why you would want to put that bulky suspension under the front of the Morris though when there are better options even if you might have to save your money for a while to do it. The S-10 Frame is not the universal fix all that some people tend to think it is.

Ask yourself "Do I really want a big bulky GM suspension under the front end of my rather small Morris?"

You also have to remember that the steering box and steering linkage is/are out in front of the crossmember and cause their own issues especially on a small car.

Like you the original poster has a very low number of posts so I'd imagine that he is still lamenting cutting the floor out of his heirloom Nova and attempting to cobble the S-10 frame under it long after the whole thing went to the junk yard. If he had succeeded we would be looking at a build thread in the archives.
I can not imagine what a cobbled up mess that Nova with an S10 frame would be like! Those cars are sooooo sweet, what a shame it would be. And how easy it would be to make a nice frame from scratch under it that looks like it belongs there.

Brian
09-30-2012 05:17 PM
Chopt 48
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Originally Posted by RWENUTS View Post
You know nybronc if you look in the top left hand corner of the post you'll see a date and a time.
This thread is almost 7 years old.
Do you think you might get an answer?
And reason enough that Threads should automatically lock after six months of inactivity on all forums and only be reopened by the original poster.

I can't see why you would want to put that bulky suspension under the front of the Morris though when there are better options even if you might have to save your money for a while to do it. The S-10 Frame is not the universal fix all that some people tend to think it is.

Ask yourself "Do I really want a big bulky GM suspension under the front end of my rather small Morris?"

You also have to remember that the steering box and steering linkage is/are out in front of the crossmember and cause their own issues especially on a small car.

Like you the original poster has a very low number of posts so I'd imagine that he is still lamenting cutting the floor out of his heirloom Nova and attempting to cobble the S-10 frame under it long after the whole thing went to the junk yard. If he had succeeded we would be looking at a build thread in the archives.
09-29-2012 10:31 AM
RWENUTS Start a new thread.
09-29-2012 09:47 AM
nybronc
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didn't notice the date, people usually stay on web sites like this for years , once into cars, projects ect., you usually always have something going , well if any others have done this swap i'd like to hear from you.
09-29-2012 08:28 AM
RWENUTS You know nybronc if you look in the top left hand corner of the post you'll see a date and a time.
This thread is almost 7 years old.
Do you think you might get an answer?
09-28-2012 10:16 PM
nybronc well interesting ! I wanted to do a morris on a s 10 too !,been reading as much as i can on it , have you found a s10 that one year is better to use than another ?, and the track also, would it look right under the morris ?, saw the fatman setup, just too expensive for me, but i do have a chev. 402 and turbo 400 with no place to go so i liked the s10 idea under the morris, any things i should know about ? other than its alot of work. thanks for any help, love this site, just found it and i could read all night !
03-28-2006 02:41 PM
tyman00 http://ad-engineering.com/TechnicalInfo.html

On the right hand side of the page there is a little more information on the S10. Should give you a little better idea on wheelbase.
03-28-2006 10:57 AM
86078
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Originally Posted by jvsapp
yeah i think it looks like it is right after the trans mount. hmm.. now i really have to rethink what i'm going to use on my morris... maybe a bac halfed s10 would be cheaper and better than getting a morrison or fatman chassis made. well better for street use anyway... but i didn't know that the monte did the same thing...

I see it too...looks like it could work...i think somebody posted 108 & 117... ...i know where theres two right now...a std cab longbed & a xtra cab shortbed...but if we're only gonna back half it what the hell...this is were that WyoTech education woulda come in handy...i didn't know montes had it too...i've heard that people used the front clips though...hey maybe a subscription to KitCar???
03-28-2006 09:56 AM
jvsapp
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Originally Posted by Chopt 48
Kit Car Magazine is doing a 40/41 Willys Pickup on an S-10 chassis http://kitcarmag.com/projectbuild/0603kc_hauler/ There are some good photos here that might be usefull.
On the frame slide thing. If you look closely at the frame it appears that the front subframe connects to the side rails in the area even with the front of the transmission pan in the lead photo in the story. it might be possible to cut those welds and slip the frame a few inches to correct wheel base length.
I did much the same thing at the back of a 75 Monte Carlo frame that I put under a 51 Merc.
yeah i think it looks like it is right after the trans mount. hmm.. now i really have to rethink what i'm going to use on my morris... maybe a bac halfed s10 would be cheaper and better than getting a morrison or fatman chassis made. well better for street use anyway... but i didn't know that the monte did the same thing...
03-28-2006 08:36 AM
tyman00 Don: I know that you aren't using the stock 51 Box, but I was still wondering what S-10 chasis you used? Extended cab/short box, reg cab/long box? I enjoy seeing photos of your project.
03-26-2006 11:32 AM
Chopt 48 Kit Car Magazine is doing a 40/41 Willys Pickup on an S-10 chassis http://kitcarmag.com/projectbuild/0603kc_hauler/ There are some good photos here that might be usefull.
On the frame slide thing. If you look closely at the frame it appears that the front subframe connects to the side rails in the area even with the front of the transmission pan in the lead photo in the story. it might be possible to cut those welds and slip the frame a few inches to correct wheel base length.
I did much the same thing at the back of a 75 Monte Carlo frame that I put under a 51 Merc.
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