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10-05-2012 08:54 PM
greazyball None of the projects ive done have been easy,Im not likely to use a GM running gear.The parts pile is mostly FoMoCo,Mazda,Willys and a mish-mash of other vehicles.Im really looking at the Dodge Dakota frame.But something still has me eyeballing the S-10.I dont know. Im just trying to avoid another mazda frame.my dad didnt even want to use it.But when you have no money,no truck but you do have a pile of parts and a plasma cutter and welder..guess what? the only other option i was thinking of was,Using a willys frame and adapting a clip from another truck so i could get disc brakes,better and updated steering and so on.Mustang II i.f.s is out of the question if the truck was going to be a streetrod just for fun and not be carrying heavy loads ,maybe i would
10-03-2012 08:16 AM
timothale
frame swap

I copied pasted this from one of my previous posts
AS MARTINSR SAYS IT'S HARDER THAN IT LOOKS. . We saw a early 50's jeep pickup on a blazer chassis at a car show. looked at it and the guy says it was easy. We have a 48 jeepster, It was on a 4 X 4 jeep FC chassis with a SBC, The original jeepster chassis and pickups have the same contour, pickups just longer in the rear. The jeepster needed new brakes , and even new brakes don't stop very well, the front hubs needed repair. total $ 600 parts needed. I found a blazer with a cancered body, 8 wheels-tires , no engine for $ 150. when we started on it We found the 48 has a shorter engine compartment. had to move the engine back 8 in, new motor and trans mounts new drive shafts, new clutch and brake pedal mounting. , steering shaft rework. had to change gas tank, the jeepster is shorter in the rear than a truck. had to rework rear floor, new shock mounting crosmember. The blazer has heaver drive train and front disc. I would reconsider keeping it on a stock frame, upgrade brakes rear end etc.,
todays notes
Jeep trucks and wagons frames from about 47 thru the 60's are similar. I have had wagons, pickups..an FC pug nose 3/4 ton with wide tread. and still have the jeepster. The blazer is about 1 to 1 1/2 longer wheel base but you can poke it out the front to have bigger clearance for tires. the blazer is also wider, big tires stick out a ways. A frame swap for a blazer is DOABLE JUST MORE WORK THAN A STOCK FRAME WOULD BE.
10-03-2012 02:31 AM
greazyball why thank you martin for pointing that out,there are no 'correct' frames when i build a street rod or adapt something to one of my vehicles.All 3 choices will require some modification its just a question of which one is going to be the least amount of work.Im not using an original WILLYS frame because i want more modern brakes,steering geometry,power steering etc..i have run a willys truck with an original frame and front suspension the brakes suck..the steering sucks..its was okay for its day..and now its okay for 'parade' duty.But i use my truck for work,i carry sandblasting grit,blasters,compressor,i load a trailer on it and go get 2 cord of firewood etc and in the summer months i tow a trailer with lots of steel repair panels for street rods and military jeeps...oklahoma,virginia, connecticut..so i need something thats got disc brakes,stout frame (after mods) parts availability over the counter..i CAN likely get an S-10 frame to work and modify it as i need to,same as the Mazda frame..i CAN modify it to work,But my question was for guys who maybe have done something completely different or maybe had a better idea than what i do..in fact,im looking at a mid 80's dodge dakota frame,very good sized brake rotors,thick metal,boxed in the appriate places..(i will strengthen where i think it should be..and the measurements are very close to the original willys...good in the sense that i will have minimal issues fitting the Cab/Nose to the dakota frame...rear bed?..i will build it,thats what i do...if i was loaded with cash,i would call one of those companies that will build me a frame to suit my project wilwood brakes,currie 9in rear axle etc etc then just bolt on and go sand and prime on saturday...paint on sunday..drive on monday
10-02-2012 10:52 AM
MARTINSR Then use a 55 Willys frame! The S-10 frame is STILL the wrong frame, just as the Mazda frame was the wrong frame.

Brian
10-01-2012 10:29 PM
greazyball
55 Willys on Mazda frame

My dad built this 55 willys,He placed it on a 1987 Mazda B2000 2wd frame.He readily admitted this was a less than good idea..but at the time he built it,He was broke,no money,no work in the shop..but he did have the Cab,fenders,hood,grille for the 55 willys truck and the frame was 'free' he had to extend it and do alot of work to get it together and put a 302/truck 4spd in it.the trans mount was a real problem and had to be heavily modified and the rails on either side of the engine had to be reinforced heavily.At any rate,my oldest son now wants his own Willys pick-up...i have a cab and a complete nose..the rear bed i can build.But i have no frame.Anyone got a suggestion for a more modern frame? I was thinking a chevy s-10 but it looks like the rear part is going to create a problem and will need modifying..it looks like the truck will sit very low if i use an S-10 unmodified...i want ground clearance..not down low in the weeds.it will be a work truck to a point.I can fabricate and modify...i just dont want the headaches i got with this mazda frame..yes i used the frame my dad put under the truck.The next willys truck i would like a little less work.Any suggestions..S-10..only if i must...WILLYS frame? any severe issues there?

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