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12-07-2012 06:35 AM
robhardy as i said before deer season has taken my time but the car is running and the 350 has surprised me so far. i haven't gotten into it but it sound every bit as deep and throaty as the 455 did. this may be good enough for a long time. but i do see a 400 being built sooner or later.
10-29-2012 04:35 PM
beertracker
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Originally Posted by LATECH View Post
Bumping this up front for beertracker.
latech, thanks for keeping me in mind. I used Fel Pro 1233 gaskets for my head\intake manifold combo and it worked great. Now to get the starter back on and I will be in business again. Check my photo gallery to see a few pics of my intake manifold. It has two different size cross over ports. bt
10-20-2012 12:06 PM
robhardy
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Originally Posted by hcompton View Post
I got a few real good peices of advice when i built my first pontiac 455 ho. First of all dont even think of building one.

Before i go further i want to say i love pontiac. If i had a good block i would put on in my c4 vette just to be wierd.So as you can imagine i did not take this good advice. Hell my 71 grand prix sj had its own website. It did work out big cubes it was fast as hell. I cant tell you how many people were suprised to see that 4000+ gp jump up and leave them stand still in a cloud of tire smoke at 50 mph.

Deliver pizzas until you can buy one turn key from butler. You will save thousands and end up with more power on pump gas friendly engine you will love everytime you drive the car.

Butler Performance - Specializing in Pontiac Engines Heads and Performance Parts

You can build a big chevy for 3k less. Nothing to sneeze at. And it will make more hp.

For the cash i spent at the machine shop and parts i could of had any corvette engine low miles ready to swap. It really is LS-whatever.

A gen one small block twin turbo setup with everything forged and computer controled. In the 1000 hp range is not out of the question. If you going to pay 7 k for a dirty block and a box of parts you can do anything you could imagine with a sbc.

That being said i know nothing about the 350 sep the 400 is more common and easy to lay your hands on. Hope you get it going. best way to build 455 is get parts for next to nothing from friends and the net over a few years when you can wait for the right deal to come along. They are out there just never when you need it.

Sorry for posting usless info that is not really related to your post. Just dont want to see anyone go down the same road i did. Butler rules... I talked to him before my build hes the one that gave me the advice.
i should have the 350 up in a few weeks. unless i luck into a good 455 block i'm more likely going to use the 64 heads on a 400 and call it a day. if the 350 doesn't absolutely make me want to throw rocks at this car it may be years before i even bother with that. i'm not planning on going to the track or racing tennagers at redlights. i may find the 350 is all i really need. honestly, i traded the torino for it less than a month after i got it running. if i get this car going and somebody comes along with a finished mopar, or the right chevelle or whatever i decide i'm in the mood for this thing may end up gone that fast too. this is the result of a bunch of trades that started with a '67 c-10. the money has slowly added up but this car has upgraded suspension, you could eat off of almost any surface on the car and the interior is in 85% plus condition. the next step will be something barrett jackson finish quality but non-matching numbers.
anyway, deer season opened here today so i'll be focused on that for the next month or two. and i need to start throwing money at barns and fences after that.
chances are that i'll drive the car with the 350 and be happy for a few years.
no information is useless.
thanks
10-18-2012 06:08 PM
hcompton I got a few real good peices of advice when i built my first pontiac 455 ho. First of all dont even think of building one.

Before i go further i want to say i love pontiac. If i had a good block i would put on in my c4 vette just to be wierd.So as you can imagine i did not take this good advice. Hell my 71 grand prix sj had its own website. It did work out big cubes it was fast as hell. I cant tell you how many people were suprised to see that 4000+ gp jump up and leave them stand still in a cloud of tire smoke at 50 mph.

Deliver pizzas until you can buy one turn key from butler. You will save thousands and end up with more power on pump gas friendly engine you will love everytime you drive the car.

Butler Performance - Specializing in Pontiac Engines Heads and Performance Parts

You can build a big chevy for 3k less. Nothing to sneeze at. And it will make more hp.

For the cash i spent at the machine shop and parts i could of had any corvette engine low miles ready to swap. It really is LS-whatever.

A gen one small block twin turbo setup with everything forged and computer controled. In the 1000 hp range is not out of the question. If you going to pay 7 k for a dirty block and a box of parts you can do anything you could imagine with a sbc.

That being said i know nothing about the 350 sep the 400 is more common and easy to lay your hands on. Hope you get it going. best way to build 455 is get parts for next to nothing from friends and the net over a few years when you can wait for the right deal to come along. They are out there just never when you need it.

Sorry for posting usless info that is not really related to your post. Just dont want to see anyone go down the same road i did. Butler rules... I talked to him before my build hes the one that gave me the advice.
10-18-2012 05:26 PM
LATECH Bumping this up front for beertracker.
10-12-2012 09:08 PM
robhardy yeah, it's only going to get up to 80 down here tomorrow. there's a cold front coming in next week and we'll have highs in the 70's. we get maybe 4 or 5 weeks of cold weather most years. we get about 9 months of summer, though. mine still has most everything but the compressor. i'm not going to put a/c in until i drop a bigger motor in.
10-12-2012 05:59 PM
LATECH My cousin has a 69 firebird also. I am hookin him up with the AC pump and brackets. My 64 is a non AC car. Doesnt get real hot here in Pa. so dont need AC. It would be nice to have , but I am not gonna go all out and put AC on it. His bird had AC from the factory, and the pump and brackets are MIA.
10-12-2012 05:32 PM
robhardy the a/c stuff is a good score. i'll be looking for a compressor next summer.
10-12-2012 04:16 PM
LATECH Cool.
Tomorrow I am going to pickup a 400 481988 casting on the block.
Its complete carb to pan. water pump to tailshaft on the trans.( It comes with a t 400 )
I will be stashing the T 400 for now. The block is going off to the mnachine shop for hot tank, magnaflux and sonic testing. Then its going in a bag after it gets oiled down.
Never hurts to have a spare. Eventually I will build a 462 out of it.I still have my 389/400 build this winter.
I needed th quadrajet intake and carb. Plus it has A/C hanging off of it and a starter too. Lots of goodies there.
10-12-2012 08:56 AM
robhardy went ahead and bought a performer. i would have always been second guessing myself if i had gone with either of my other options.
10-08-2012 05:47 PM
robhardy well, since the ports match even though they shouldn't i'm not going to worry about blocking them for now.
i saw one that someone had cut on another forum. it looked good.
my plan is still to eventually build a big cube engine, so i'm trying to make myself lighten up on this build a little.
10-08-2012 04:08 PM
LATECH These pics may give you a better idea of what I am trying to say. Sometimes I just cant describe stuff well enough for it to make sense.
10-08-2012 04:02 PM
LATECH This is a photo of a "divorced " crossover from a ram air 3 I think.
The reason I posted it is so that you can see what needs to be cut off your intake.
On your intake, the crossover is actually part of the casting of the whole intake.The view of the one in the picture is the "shared" section of your intake.Take a goos look at it, you will see how it is made. Just cut that part off of your intake, and make a pair of plates as thick as your intake bolt flanges, and stick them over the heat riser ports in the heads, then bolt it all down.
I saw one on E bay a while back a guy had cut, he did a nice job, had plates with it too. The picture would have been a great example to show you, but it has been sold, and I didnt save a pic of it. (wish I had)
10-08-2012 03:53 PM
LATECH This link at wallace may help.
Exhaust Crossover Comparison - Wallace Racing
10-08-2012 03:46 PM
LATECH I wouldnt be shovin tin foil in there. You can completely remove the crossover part of the manifold, almost surgically if you will, and make some 1/4 inch or 3/8 plates to cover the ports in that area. If i have a pic of one done that way I will post it so you can see. It will make better sense that way.
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