|10-15-2012 06:57 AM|
|Jim Rockford||well you can do that too. many folks have, just didn't know if you wanted to do that onm a new intake. Glad you got it going|
|10-15-2012 05:32 AM|
|JOHNSHENOUDA||Thanks so much for the info. I took it off the block and reamed out the center holes with a file, reinstalled, and torqued done. Worked great and no leaks. Now she runs like a raped ape!|
|10-14-2012 04:33 PM|
its the center bolt hole for the later heads, I can't beleive its taken this long to get an answer... I knew it soon as I read the first post, you need this model number Edelbrock 2104 SB Chevy 87-95 Performer Intake Manifold | eBay
Unless you are running a TBI setup then you can use this..
|10-09-2012 06:41 PM|
|10-09-2012 06:01 PM|
That IS the right type intake for the 1987-'95 heads, though...
|10-09-2012 05:42 PM|
|10-09-2012 04:24 PM|
You can elongate the bolt holes of the intake (some info here). It's no big deal. But if the intake can be returned for the correct one, that would be the preferred way to go.
Some of these heads were used on TBI equipped truck engines and were called "swirl port" (or "SP") heads. Casting numbers 14102191 and 14102193 are seen most often. They do not flow well at elevated rpm- like above about 4500 rpm or so on a 350 cid engine. If you have SP heads, consider swapping them out. If you swap them, you might as well bite the bullet and get Vortec heads if you cannot afford aftermarket heads. The Vortec heads are worth as much as 50 HP more than traditional Gen 1 SBC production heads. They do require a different intake manifold than 1985-back heads, so that's something to consider if you were going to have to buy a new/different intake anyway.
|10-09-2012 01:42 PM|
intake bolts being stuborn
Look on the flange behind the alternator and post the numbers for the block. Pull the valve covers and get the casting numbers for the heads and post them too. There is also a casting number on the back of the engine where the transmission bolts to the block. Can be on the drivers or passenger side. Like was mention before you might have vortec heads which uses a different manifold.
|10-09-2012 01:01 PM|
|malc||I had a similar situation with a too thick gasket.|
|10-09-2012 12:53 PM|
|techinspector1||I seem to remember a port/gasket mis-match. You may have an intake leak if you try to use it. Start with the right parts for the application.|
|10-09-2012 12:49 PM|
If its new, and you have a receipt...exchange it. Ask around, someone may have done a Vortec head swap and have the intake you need as a doorstop.
A machine shop could probably drill those out for a few bucks. I wouldnt do it with a cordless hand drill for example.
|10-09-2012 12:21 PM|
|JOHNSHENOUDA||I called Edelbrock. From what I can tell the block i have is a later model since the valve cover bolts are in the center of the valve covers. That means that the four bolts in the center shoot straight up and down instead of being on an angle like the other eight. So my choice is buying a new intake, or trying to drill out the four holes to accept the bolts. What would you do? I have never drilled out a manifold, however I have drilled out many things in the years of rigging. really do expect it to be that big of a deal.|
|10-09-2012 12:04 PM|
Are you sure your block was never decked and your heads haven't been milled? With a new intake it would be frustrating to have to modify. But if things aren't coming together properly in your mockup install you have to do something. You may consider using the extra thick intake gaskets. Mock it up, if you're not having success then either send it back (if they take it) or drill out the holes. Can you get a mag light and look down in there to figure out what the obstruction is? Is the bolt getting hung up on the intake gasket or is the hole too far off center of the threads?
|10-09-2012 11:16 AM|
|JOHNSHENOUDA||I will definitely give it a shot. Good to know on the bolt sizes. Maybe I will call Edelbrock and see what they say.|
|10-09-2012 11:04 AM|
Are you sure the intake gasket isn't the problem? If not, you can grind the intake bolt holes as needed to get the bolts to line up- just don't cross thread them!
One more thing- be sure the bolts aren't too long, else there are a couple that can hit the pushrod. IIRC, intake manifold bolts for cylinders 4 and 5 should not use 1-1/2” bolts, use 1-1/4” at the longest.
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