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#1 ·
Hey first poster here,

I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

My dad got this coupe in a trade a few months back and I am trying to help him sell it. We are not looking to flip it for quick cash, but would prefer to get a decent offer for it.

Here are my questions..

-Is this a 34 FORD coupe? (seems chevy and ford look similar in my opinion)
-where would be a good place to list this for sale online?
-hints/tips to increase the sale price
-Any idea on a rough estimated value/what it might actually sell for?



Here are the specs:
2001 Z06 engine
All aluminum
383 hours <2500 miles
350 Cu In
700 R4 Trans
IRS and IFS suspension
Halibrand quick change rear end
383 gears
1935 ford truck diff mounted sideways
wilwood brakes and floating axle
34 tub
33 doors (no vents)
full roll bar
Dan Rink custom grill
American Racing rims


These are specs I was given... If possible, tell me if I need to explain more about certain specs or if I should ignore others.

It appears it will not allow me to insert IMG pics nor will it upload my pics on desktop so here is an album full of pics.
http://s1175.photobucket.com/albums/r639/hotrods1332/

No pics of interior for now, but it is mint.

Thanks for any help!
 
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#4 ·
How would I research this? I'd start by calling Goodguys and telling them that I'm trying to chase down the builder or last owner of a chopped top coupe built in a 33/34 Ford Coupe style. Phone number is on the right side of this page. If they can't help, ask them who to call next. This car is nice enough to have been shown many times, so I'll bet someone knows something about it in the show circuit.
https://good-guys.com/info/contact-us
 
#7 ·
I dont know enough about these cars or the market to know whether or not what you said is good or bad for me?

Is the fact that this may be "custom fiberglass" or something a good or bad thing? Id imagine its not good seeing as its not a genuine brand.

Any more info on this? My father was told this car would/should sell for 50k+ without any issues.. luckily he didnt pay anywhere near this price.

I will give goodguys a call! thank you for that info.
 
#8 ·
No pardner it's nothing against you at all, what I meant was some folks that own the "real steel" original Fords have a problem with other folks that refer to their fiberglass "kit cars" as they put it by the original manufacturer's name. Hence the term "replica" as I refer to my own '32 Victoria build, this has been going on forever.
 
#10 ·
and I always found that comical. as these "steel is real" types have cars that are nothing like the way it came built by ford..
chopped/pie cuts/etc..

good luck with the car...
maybe list it on ebay.. with a crazy hi reserve.. to see where the car bids go to.. without loosing the car.. if it gets to a point you feel is high enough(bids) you can always lower the reserve..
this give you an idea.. of what people in the market might pay.. without fear of a no reserve auction..
you'll have the choice to lower the reserve and sell or use the listing as a tool to know about what it should bring.. and go from there.
 
#13 · (Edited)
We don't need a steel vs fiberglass discussion but to just touch on this. First off, not all guys who want the steel car are like that, the car often remains close to original other than drive train mods.

But even if it were to be cut up like my truck, chopped, sectioned and much more. The point being at least in my case, I like the real vintage car because it has a history. I can't say "original car" because that means something completely different. But I personally like the parts even to have a "history". My cars carried kids home from the hospital, you know what I mean? They went on honeymoons, vacations, drove the elderly to church or out to a dinner to, they have a history. I feel the same way about the parts, about the manuals, I want original owners manuals not reprints because I like the idea that some new car owner looked at this thing to figure out how to work his new car, I dig that thought. On the repair manual, I love the old original manuals with greasy finger prints in them where some hard working mechanic thumbed thru it to get a car back on the road years ago. They have a soul, a history. That's how I see it at least.

Brian
Very, Very, Well said Brian:thumbup:

Steel has heart and an old soul! A lot more skill to build from steel!!! Lead work, hammer welding, Shrinking ,stretching, rolling,Etc,Etc It becomes part of the builders body and soul even if built for a customer it becomes part of you!

I do glass, and steel I know by doing both I have more pride in the steel !! But they are both nice cars when done!!!


When people buy them already done those guys argue:boxing: Any one that has built both Knows!!!!! Glass is easy! if you can mix pancake batter you can work glass!!!!

Jester
 
#15 ·
Very, Very, Well said Brian:thumbup:

Steel has heart and an old soul! A lot more skill to build from steel!!! Lead work, hammer welding, Shrinking ,stretching, rolling,Etc,Etc It becomes part of the builders body and soul even if built for a customer it becomes part of you!

I do glass, and steel I know by doing both I have more pride in the steel !! But they are both nice cars when done!!!


When people buy them already done those guys argue:boxing: Any one that has built both Knows!!!!! Glass is easy! if you can mix pancake batter you can work glass!!!!

Jester
I can go on line and for 25k buy a steel body ready to go.. brookfield roadsters(iirc) among others..
most that OWN these steel cars. you know the oem steel ones didn' build it.. so steel being harder or easier to work with is moot...
both have there place.. sadly.. the car hobby is full of high than to. types.. in every segment..
most on here would laugh at almost all imports.. the rod guys don't like the muscle guys.. the muscle guys don't like the new muscle guys..
it's somewhat sad... and all you got to do is go to a show and walk around and overhear people talking.. I really thing some go just to pick apart everyone car on the field..
 
#20 ·
What's the title say, have you looked at that?

I can go on line and for 25k buy a steel body ready to go.. brookfield roadsters(iirc) among others..
most that OWN these steel cars. you know the oem steel ones didn' build it.. so steel being harder or easier to work with is moot...
both have there place.. sadly.. the car hobby is full of high than to. types.. in every segment..
most on here would laugh at almost all imports.. the rod guys don't like the muscle guys.. the muscle guys don't like the new muscle guys..
it's somewhat sad... and all you got to do is go to a show and walk around and overhear people talking.. I really thing some go just to pick apart everyone car on the field..
FYI: It's Brookville Roadster. I used to live in Brookville Ohio. Neat place, like walking into a time machine. Brookville Roadster

OEM vs repro. I guess it depends on your perspective. I never cared about oem vs reproduced bodies (steel or glass) until I got my '69 Camaro which is an all steel numbers matching original survivor. When Dynacorn started importing new camaro bodies, and guys started cutting rusted scrap oem cowl's up and building a "new" Camaro around a VIN tag it chapped my *****. It hurts the value of my vehicle and its just plain dishonest.
 
#16 ·
I think that whole part about who built it is total and complete BS. I am NOT one of those guys who look down on someone who didn't build the car, they are either a car lover or not, and it has nothing what so ever to do with if they built it or not. And in that regard, when I look at someone elses car, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if it's glass or not, or repro metal or not, the over all impression I get of the car as I look at it from across the street THAT is what moves me.

As far as glass being easier, again, I don't buy that. I have done both and I have to say they both take a boat load of time and skills to make nice. They are totally different materials so the job is totally different, but both take a boat load of time and skills, they are just different skills.

But for me personally, not anyone else, for me personally I like the history of a steel car. Now when it's like my truck where there aren't two panels on the whole thing that came from the same truck (well actually the front fenders have known each other from birth, but that's it) it's easy to say there is no history. But when those parts are exactly as the original ones it still works, it's like they all came together. The fact that they came from different sources is quickly forgotten.

Brian
 
#17 ·
come on. history.. really.. most cars on a show field.. are pieces of many donors.. and/or new parts..
I don't care if an owner build it or not either.. but the fact if they drive it or not..
I'd rather see a 1979 t/a with 150k on it than the low mile 234 miles since new car.. as it wasn't enjoyed..
my SS has a history, sold in n.c. and I bought it in maine. oh and it's stock. mighty boring..
the truck was a farm truck. fixed up for a guys son before I got it.. history of haul'n hay,
very few cars have a history worth a darn and those are one owner or one family cars.. (at least to me) my SS came from dale earnhardt chevy in newton n.c. no one really cares that thats the chevy store that sold it.. I'll bet as soon as I change out the engine , I'll get haters..
most of this history you speak off is,, car got old, needed fixing, was parked in barn and forgot about for 40-60 years.. thats the story of most cars as they age.. only that group of owners kept everything as they remembered the depression.. unlike today that they'd junk a car for scrap money before parking it in a barn.. one has to remember that these old cars at one time where just that old worn out junkers.. parked because it was nickle'n and dime'n the owner to death..
 
#18 ·
There's a big difference between buying a new steel body and finding an old neglected body and bringing it back to life ! Its the same with buying a fiberglass replica and bringing old steel back from the dead!

new glass Kit cars are easy and only need minor repairs on flaws from the molds! That's why they sell kit glass body's! (their easy) Unless your making your own molds for parts I also do that! Its easy to assemble the good glass kits, the cheep ones are poor quality and need additional work like bracing, thickening in areas, filling of pits and blemishes etc! The hardest thing to do on glass kit body's and parts is Knowledge knowing the difference between laminating resin and standard resin , mixing for different dry times( cold or hot mix), cloth or fiber! and sanding that darned glass it itches for days in the damnedest places! I like working on Glass cars And I find it much easier to form a wing or fender flares or fins on a glass car, then making custom additions on steel cars out of steel !

My post before was meant to give that impression I wasn't cutting down glass! I own a glass! I think at a show Glass should be in a different class then old steel though! I always have and I always will !

The arguments are silly each has its points but to argue that they are both equal skill levels pertaining to body's fenders hoods etc is really unrealistic! I use glass on steel while doing some customizing but have never used steel on glass except for the molds or shapes (I also use cardboard, duct tape, chicken wire, wood, and foam) and then Glass them!!!

My opinions arn't every ones and Im not trying to change anyone's! It impressions of 50 years of owning and building both personally and in my business!

Jester
 
#19 ·
As far as them being both difficult I have only done a few fiberglass cars, then a ton of motorhome fiberglass work. Fiberglass box flares, Sixties Shelby's, Corvettes, etc. But on the cars, with modifying stuff or correcting poorly made parts (an Auburn Kit car) it would have been easier in my opinion to do it in metal. But maybe it's more because I hate working the itchy fiberglass.

Brian
 
#21 ·
lakeroadster OEM vs repro. I guess it depends on your perspective. I never cared about oem vs reproduced bodies (steel or glass) until I got my '69 Camaro which is an all steel numbers matching original survivor. When Dynacorn started importing new camaro bodies said:
Same with glass guys buying up titles so they didn't have to title it as New or pass inspection for an assembled title!!!

"Hey, what year is your "T"? "Oh its a 2010 :D:thumbup:

I had a 34 coupe and was beat in COBO by the first glass replica I ever saw personally on the street or at a show !! I admit if it was steel he would have beat me hands down!!!! But I actually chopped mine:sweat: his came in the kit already chopped:eek:! That stuck in my craw all these years!!


So Im kind of biased:thumbup: Jester
 
#22 ·
I, myself have no problem with someone building/owning a fiberglass car :D
But the coupe in question does ... NOT ... look anything like a 33/34 Ford. The oldest part on it is most likely 10 or 15 years old.

It is a KIT ... body from one source, engine from another ... and so on.
I do not see the first REAL Ford part of any kind on it.

A 33/34 Ford coupe looks similar to this



or without fenders ...

 
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