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11-16-2012 03:48 PM
gearheadslife
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie5.7 View Post
I don't blame you for not wanting to swap to a v6. Most of the 60* v6's that are easy swaps are rather anemic. I'd ditch the duke though. Put a quad4 in that bad boy, it's the engine they should have put in the Fiero.
ya.. that or the 3800 are the normal swaps...
or echotech but mine is a pace car.. so I'll keep the duke.. it goes nicely with it.. and 38mpg hyway and 27ish around town.. and that was why I bought it.. 4cyl good mpg and american made and somewhat fun to drive daily..
11-16-2012 02:13 PM
painted jester
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Originally Posted by Bussaw1 View Post
Jester
You are right about my application it is mainly for looks although it has been ported and polished otherwise pretty much stock. The exhaust and intake manifolds are seperate of each other so no heat riser for the carb warm weather car only. LOL

I have it in a 23 T-Bucket and has plenty of power for a light thing like that only 1,380 lbs, so moves along real smoothly.

Thanks everyone for your input it shows that there is a lot of intrest in the old 151.
Post a few pics Id really Be interested in seeing it!!!

Jester
11-16-2012 01:58 PM
painted jester
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Originally Posted by bondo View Post
Ayuh,... The 151 was Never used in a boat,...

The 153, 'n the 181 were used in boats though...
I didn't mention 151 I said IRON DUKE And they are converted to Marine applications in some just not stock installations the same as the mans T bucket They never came in Ts either ! You need a 151 put in a boat Ill show you how to install one!!!!!!

Jester
11-16-2012 11:21 AM
Valkyrie5.7
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Originally Posted by gearheadslife View Post
I'm researching this engine as it's in my fiero.. and I'm not swaping to a v6..
I don't blame you for not wanting to swap to a v6. Most of the 60* v6's that are easy swaps are rather anemic. I'd ditch the duke though. Put a quad4 in that bad boy, it's the engine they should have put in the Fiero.
11-16-2012 10:23 AM
Bussaw1
151 Iron Duke

Jester
You are right about my application it is mainly for looks although it has been ported and polished otherwise pretty much stock. The exhaust and intake manifolds are seperate of each other so no heat riser for the carb warm weather car only. LOL

I have it in a 23 T-Bucket and has plenty of power for a light thing like that only 1,380 lbs, so moves along real smoothly.

Thanks everyone for your input it shows that there is a lot of intrest in the old 151.
11-16-2012 04:39 AM
bondo
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Originally Posted by painted jester View Post
Maybe he wants the fancy looks of a header? Not every one builds engines to the hilt that runs headers? He asked a simple question!!

He may only need a simple answer!

That may be a marine iron duke?

Jester
Ayuh,... The 151 was Never used in a boat,...

The 153, 'n the 181 were used in boats though...
11-15-2012 03:07 PM
1Gary Header companies advertize hp gains but not at what rpm ranges.Off idle gains for headers amounts to not much.At least not much for the seat of the pants dyno.To tune a highly mod engine's exhaust is something entirely different.The expectation going in is to operate that engine at a higher rpm anyways where headers effectiveness come into play.
11-15-2012 02:32 PM
ap72
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Originally Posted by gearheadslife View Post
I'm researching this engine as it's in my fiero.. and I'm not swaping to a v6.. my point as seen as no one knows what the engine is in.. the factory one isn't the bottleneck.. thats all.. if it's for looks.. thats all good.. but if it's because the o/p thinks he'll get any extra power.. he might want to save his money..
He won't see a huge increase with an otherwise stock engine but he can see a measurable increase if he does a good job. Anytime you work with an NA 4 banger you expect small incremental gains. BTDT
11-15-2012 02:27 PM
gearheadslife
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Originally Posted by painted jester View Post
Look none of that is in the question!!!!! Are you trying to prime an argument on this mans thread??? Your getting yourself ready for being embarrassed !!!!!

Lets say I'm running a street rod With an exposed engine? I would want a classy looking exhaust with a header ! That may be what the thread starter has in mind.

Wait till he comes back and you can warn him his engine is going to fly apart! And he built the wrong engine! And you can school him in the way he should have done it!!!!! And post pics to show him what kind of exhausts you have built!

Jester
I'm researching this engine as it's in my fiero.. and I'm not swaping to a v6.. my point as seen as no one knows what the engine is in.. the factory one isn't the bottleneck.. thats all.. if it's for looks.. thats all good.. but if it's because the o/p thinks he'll get any extra power.. he might want to save his money..
11-15-2012 02:06 PM
painted jester Look none of that is in the question!!!!! Are you trying to prime an argument on this mans thread??? Your getting yourself ready for being embarrassed !!!!!

Lets say I'm running a street rod With an exposed engine? I would want a classy looking exhaust with a header ! That may be what the thread starter has in mind.

Wait till he comes back and you can warn him his engine is going to fly apart! And he built the wrong engine! And you can school him in the way he should have done it!!!!! And post pics to show him what kind of exhausts you have built!

Jester
11-15-2012 01:55 PM
gearheadslife
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Originally Posted by ap72 View Post
you don't need to have high rpm to benefit from a "fancy header" properly made you can see the benefits at whatever RPM you want.
true.. but.. the iron duke bottom end isn't strong enough to get the rpm's up high enough to run out of flow..
I understand that different tube lenth/size/ collector lenth/size/type can help...
g.m. got 6hp after a new head and roller cam.. and a balance shaft..
the newer head doesn't fit the older block..
'86 it got roller cam.. '87 disII ign ''88 oilfilter in pan (IIRC) balance shaft came online around now.. or allitle later
11-15-2012 01:50 PM
painted jester
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Originally Posted by ap72 View Post
you don't need to have high rpm to benefit from a "fancy header" properly made you can see the benefits at whatever RPM you want.
I see we posted at the same time againLOL
Jester
11-15-2012 01:27 PM
ap72
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Originally Posted by gearheadslife View Post
unless it's a S/D4 it doesn't matter.. the lowerend will come apart before you gain anything with a fancy header
you don't need to have high rpm to benefit from a "fancy header" properly made you can see the benefits at whatever RPM you want.
11-15-2012 01:25 PM
painted jester Maybe he wants the fancy looks of a header? Not every one builds engines to the hilt that runs headers? He asked a simple question!!

He may only need a simple answer!

That may be a marine iron duke?

Jester
11-15-2012 01:03 PM
gearheadslife
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Originally Posted by painted jester View Post
Whats his combo? Did he pm one of you ?

He could be ? Poncho, Jeep, AMC, street rod etc, Stock turbo, tunnel ram, dual quad , big 4, etc!

What ever the combo ! AP 72 mentioned build your own! If you have the ability and new headers or used stock wont fit Build your own is a good Idea!!

Jester

AP LOL WE posted at the same time LOL!
unless it's a S/D4 it doesn't matter.. the lowerend will come apart before you gain anything with a fancy header
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