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11-19-2012 09:18 AM
dinger One more thing you may try. Loosen the bolts to the fender, lower the radiator support on the left side if you can. It may be shimmed already, pull out a shim or 2. It looks like you could get a perfect gap top to bottom and also where it fits to the cowl piece. Just a thought. Dan
11-19-2012 08:35 AM
hrlys4evr
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It looks good, fitting all the parts and looking it over did the trick. Awesome!

Brian
Yes. And a big THANK YOU to you and everybody else who chimed in for the brainstorm! You all are awesome!

Best regards,
Chris
11-19-2012 08:31 AM
hrlys4evr
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You dont want to fill the gap.make or buy a fender bottom and redo the whole thing ,,
Thanks DBM! There is more to the issue. The problem seemed to be misalignment for one, and then the rocker bottom creating an illusion that the fender was way off it's mark. Many upon many lessons have been realized and learned the last few days.
11-19-2012 08:18 AM
MARTINSR It looks good, fitting all the parts and looking it over did the trick. Awesome!

Brian
11-19-2012 08:13 AM
hrlys4evr
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But if the rocker wasn't changed and the fender patch panel was, how could it be the rocker? Always look at what you touched first, I mean, it wasn't made that way at the factory was it? No, so look at what WAS touched, in this case the fender. But don't think you have to be cutting off the fender patch yet.

Brian
That is another story.The rocker was changed years ago. The truck was really abused on the driver side. Nothing was straight when I originally got the truck many moons ago and then it has sat in pieces for years now. I have spent the last two days going over the alignment trying to avoid chopping the fender again. And not a minute has gone by that I have I not kicked my own arse for this problem I created. I was studying that original picture of the first post and you can see something isn't right besides the misalignment. I have the cowl on, gaped at the top of the fender 5/16" just like the pass side and looks pretty close to the bottom of the rocker now. I need to add some fill to the fender / door gap as you can see in the picture. I have punched out a couple more spot welds from the bottom of the rocker and pushed it up where it should be. I think we got it. Let me know your thoughts?!?
11-19-2012 06:11 AM
deadbodyman
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Got the cowl cover on, and it is definitely short by 1/4" or so.... and yes, the patch was on the fender. Back when I was very naive and impatient. Paying for it now though. I appreciate your advice much Brian! So I guess my question is, where would the best place be to slice and add some metal to fill into the gap?
You dont want to fill the gap.make or buy a fender bottom and redo the whole thing ,,
11-18-2012 11:04 PM
MARTINSR
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Got the cowl cover on, and it is definitely short by 1/4" or so.... and yes, the patch was on the fender. Back when I was very naive and impatient. Paying for it now though. I appreciate your advice much Brian! So I guess my question is, where would the best place be to slice and add some metal to fill into the gap?
First off, you can measure it against the other fender to find out for sure. Secondly you can "rob Peter to pay Paul" and find a "bestest" fit between all the parts if you don't want to get into lengthening the fender. But if you really want to do that, I would go with cutting it where the patch panel was added, that is after all where it is too short. Cut it, make a strip in the proper length and weld it all back together. Sometimes it's easier to cut something like that off above where it was welded, then cut off a half inch or so, the whole welded area. Make your extension 3/4" to make up for the half inch you cut off and the 1/4" it's short and weld it all back together the correct length.

Brian
11-18-2012 11:00 PM
MARTINSR But if the rocker wasn't changed and the fender patch panel was, how could it be the rocker? Always look at what you touched first, I mean, it wasn't made that way at the factory was it? No, so look at what WAS touched, in this case the fender. But don't think you have to be cutting off the fender patch yet.

Brian
11-18-2012 09:17 PM
hrlys4evr Looks like the real culprit is the rocker. Spot welds separated on the front half and it sprung down causing the excessive gap. Breaking out the welder and grinders and some sheet metal to get this done in a second. I appreciate your insight Brian and '66'!! Time for surgery.
11-18-2012 04:41 PM
66GMC

They sell a patch panel as well, and the dimensions of that are 15" H x 17"W
if that helps to determine a place to cut?
11-18-2012 03:58 PM
hrlys4evr I know how you're feeling there '66'. I have thought about that road, but before I go there, l want to see If I can recover from this error. You're right about the year group. It is a 65 C-20. Here are the as it is photos. The right side is perfect. And then there is the mess on the drivers side. Still tweaking to get the best fit. Just a matter of where to hack it at on the lower half. If all else fails, I will throw down the Dinero and get a new one.
11-18-2012 03:28 PM
66GMC That looks like a 64-66 Chevy or GMC.
Goodmark sells complete fenders for about $220.00



I had mine patched way back in 1983, which lasted about 6 months before the bubbles reappeared.

I'm not going to mess around this time, especially for that price.
11-18-2012 02:08 PM
hrlys4evr Got the cowl cover on, and it is definitely short by 1/4" or so.... and yes, the patch was on the fender. Back when I was very naive and impatient. Paying for it now though. I appreciate your advice much Brian! So I guess my question is, where would the best place be to slice and add some metal to fill into the gap?
11-18-2012 09:00 AM
MARTINSR No problem, it's my pleasure. When I did my convertible top a while back Dan and some others on the interior forum reminded me much we can help someone who has never done something. After all the help they gave me, believe me I am more than happy to help someone doing paint and body. The learning curve is MUCH too steep without help.

Brian
11-18-2012 04:39 AM
Rebuilder Brian, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for sharing your time and know-how with us! I'm about to get going on a 61 Chevy truck restoration and have been studying paint & bodywork on this forum for a long time. I've learned so much from you!(and a handfull of other guys) I'm sure I'll make mistakes but at least I have a good foundation of knowledge to work from.
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