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oops, i traded....!

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#1 ·
Just got home, guy mailed this morn bout my vette. Came and saw, and straight trade....called my buddy with a tow truck, and off we went. 1940 chev sedan delivery, tubbed, narowed 9", mild 350, all steel, tub job is beautiful, tires are new, nova front clip, power everything, even has heat! Nice 6 point cage, etc etc, needs minor elec stuff, tach and volt guage and signals not working. 010 block, not sure of heads yet, weiand intake, has lots of oil pressure and runs well, haven't driven it really yet so don't know how slow it is but I suspect plenty slow lol....will work on that over the winter, I'm thinking 456 gear, tunnel ram, big solid cam, and hopefully some decent used heads. Should be fun, for the less then 3500 I had in my lumpy vette I think I did OK....I do have to stiffen up the rear end, soooft springs......

 
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I didn't hide anything with the vette, but honestly feeling more then a tad guilty....he was asking 18000, has an appraisal for 26, and on a good day my vette is a 4000$ car.....ah well....kids friggen love it, will have to relocate gas tank to install a small rear seat for them, .....and man does it run good, gonna be a shame to take the motor apart lol....
 
#5 ·
Unless you are gonna do some serious racing, why tear the motor apart .If this motor runs as well as you say and all you have to do is minor stuff, then leave it alone and drive it. More HP means more gas, more heat ,so you may have to upgrade the radiator and finally more HP means more headaches.
I did the race car for the street thing. It is fun but its also a pain in the ***. Have fun with the car and just drive it.
 
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That's likely the plan, wanna get the elec sorted out, then pull the heads and see what I got, I picked up a set of very ported 882's with stainless valves, screw in studs and guide plates and comp springs for 100$, they were on a claimer 358 modified motor for one run, he won, the heads got claimed, then I bought em....they cc'd at 70, so depending on what pistons I find in this thing I may try and find a used blower somewhere and be happy with low comp lol.....throw my converter in it and some 411's or 456's and see how it works.......
 
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I have that b&m for the vette that I never put in, 3000 stall, well I will put a feeler out and see if i can flip these heads and find some decent ones used.....this thing is goofy and has remote oil filters, 2 of them mounted high up on the fire wall with braided line to an adapter, no idea why....31" tires is gonna want more gear then normal tho....I will start looking around for a weiand 177 used and if not start saving lol....
 
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When i was a kid, well, late teens I had a buddy with a 50 merc, identical to the movie car from cobra, just more chop, it had a stone stock junkyard 350 with a 471 on it, it flew, and took 2 full summers of hard core abuse before it got hurt...I will likely yank the motor and trans out of this over the winter and throw some cheap forged pistons in it....then save my pennies until I can pick up a small blower...
 
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Went on my maiden voyage tonight, stops and steers amazing which was a suprse, tranny feels soft, motor is actually half decent feeling, feels peppy, dfidnt push it tho, has fk all oil pressure, so maybe just a guage, maybe something to do with the 5 feet of braided line and multiple oil filters, or maybe its empty, didnt check, or hell maybe its junk, dfoesnt smoke or knock tho, rear springs are soft, easy to fix tho, one casualty, very rough road and lost pass side headlight bezel, which sucks....anyone got one kicking around? Lol......
 
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Supercharging is the way. Been running boost in my c10 since july, and not one problem. It starts fine when cold in the morning. Fine in traffic to work. Im running 9+ lbs of boost, and shifting at 5200. Have added over 10k miles since july. Mileage didnt change after stuffing. It is a 305, 906 heads, and performer cam. You would never believe it.

Much misinformation on blown engines. They want to scare you away, because it is too easy to make big power. Stock small blocks can easily handle 6psi.

I have a couple horror stories, but they were shifting at higher rpm. Not considering normal limits.
 
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OK, I will start at the top, I ended up with the 882 heads because they were a part of a deal, 200$ for the heads, as set of crane roller rockers, and a performer intake, a sent a buddy to get them,he payed for everything and is keeping the rockers and intake, I have the option of the heads at 100$, if I want them fine, if not he will keep and I'm out nothing....the thmpr cams, the smaller one I had in a 350 a couple years ago, it was put in broken in, and that was it, the timing cover had a small crack that was unknown at the time, so when i replaced that I simply went with more cam, and threw this on a shelf, its clean and looks brand new, the mthr thumpr someone traded me for a comp 268 I had, he wasn't happy with it, I had the 268 on the shelf,I'm not sure if the mthr thmpr is good or not, never checked, didn't care, was just trying to help the guy out, but I know his initial break in didn't go well so it may be hurt. I'm more then willing to look for 416 heads again or even something better, that's not an issue, I just won't go new if I'm going to try and save for a blower next year, I have no idea until I get the heads off what's in it for pistons, I was told its a 355 with "true"flat tops whatever he means by that, I will know when i get it apart. Yes they are Sports man pros....I'm told when aired down they hook....but never tried a set. If they don't, I have access to 31" Goodyear slicks on drag lights whenever I need them tho...I would like to stay in the 456 or 513 range to maintain some highway drivability.....so, all this to say, both sets of heads are junk for a NA build, assuming the motor isnt hurt, and has flat tops, find heads in the 64 or 58 CC range again, and go from there. The rest is straight forward, it already has longtubes, throw a decent set of used heads, 1094 head gasket, a solid lifter cam suited to my gear choice and my 3000 stall, the performer rpm jntake, the holley 750, modify the hei, and enjoy it while paying for HER braces and saving up or blower build next summer....
 
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So I removed the oil cooler and related lines and sht, changed the oil with 10/40 today, and let it get up to operating temp, now it shows app 15-20 PSi at idle, 10-15 in gear, no funny noises....so I'm gonna run 20/50 in the summer and not worry about it. I also have another set of 416 heads, my buddy is puling his 305 from his olds cutlass next month ans that's the heads on it, runs good, low mileage so I will really really go nuts with the porting this time, and use the springs, valves, and guide plates from those 882's I can buy for $100. 456 gear, the solid cam you reccomended for my vette, and my converter, and hopefully this whale will move half decent.
 
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At 2000 its around 30 -35 psi.
No no, will use valves from the old 882 heads i pulled off the vette, stock 350, and use the guide plates and screw in studs and springs from the circle track 882's I picked up. The felpro 1205 are blocked at the heat riser....
 
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Just got home, guy mailed this morn bout my vette. Came and saw, and straight trade....called my buddy with a tow truck, and off we went. 1940 chev sedan delivery,
Nice truck, but I'm sure you'll find it's not a "sedan delivery". It's a Chevy panel truck. Sedan deliveries were based on a station wagon body and chassis with a delivery door on the back, while panels were truck based on a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck.
 
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Buying parts that are for sale.

you need to try to avoid falling into the trap of collecting a bunch of stuff because it is easy or avaiable
and then adjusting your plan to suite the the parts.
You will end up with a much better result for the money spent by developing a good build plan
and then buy the parts that fit the plan. Even if that means waiting.
The local used-for sale Kijiji/craigslist part that does not fit your plan is not a good deal.

EG: buying a 3000 stall converter because it was for sale, even thou you wanted a more radical motor ( big cam duration/tunnel ram) that needs a converter with a higher stall.
Same with gears.
Heads aernt a "sale" item, speed shop in Montreal, dart SHP 200, Spent alot of reading time on the bullet for some real world testing and for the cash they seem to be the real deal. 465$ each, assembled, all American parts.....converter, yes....was a sale item off kijiji, but 2800-3200 is kinda where I wanted to be anyways, as for gear, I haven't bought yet, but was liking where a 456 puts me rpm wise at 100kph.....which for the amount of commuting I do is important. I get its a compromise, and nothing is free. Ultimately i am like anyone else, I need to be able to drive it, and am more then willing to deal with rpm, noise, heat, etc as long as it fits a reasonable budget, and is a brutal as i can get based on the above info....if I could afford it I would have more head, more cam, more gear, .....but I can't, so i want as much as i can afford lol. Soooo......still wanna help me pick a cam based on these heads, converter and gear? Lol
Dave
 
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#26 ·
Does this speed shop have Brodix heads?
Something to consider if you are going to buy speed parts
Ogdensburg, New York (serving Ottawa and Brockville area) | Ship to the Border

Lunati 60141
These cams need good springs Usually a "K2" spring package.
New Lunati Part number 30120741
Lunati Cam grind number CS V8 V276S10

"Jegs" Profiler "USA head"
JEGS Performance Products 514032 JEGS Small Block Chevy Cylinder Heads
Yah, he says he can get pretty much anything at roughly the same price as summit or jegs. I was looking at the IK200 as well....just haven't had time to read up on them much. I would be doing some minor port clean up and some pushrod pinch clean up regardless of which heads. I currently have a perfomer RPM but did promise it in the trade with the vette. So may have to find another, the professional products version seems popular, and I do have the 750DP still. Currently has long tubes to 3" collectors, will then be 3" back to 10 series flowmasters then out in front of the rear tires, one bend only and its a 45°. Gonna go check out the numbers on the Lunati 60141 you mentioned.
And I priced the shp heads, a lunati voodoo hyd with lifters, and the rpm intake, he quoted me 1520 taxes in.
 
#27 ·
Good afternoon!! Lotsa good advice for you above this post. My take on this is for you to find a great engine builder as close to you as possible to set you up from start to finish to do exactly what you are after. Get it in writing if possible inorder to stave off any possible future problems.
If'n you "spread the work out" over a few places, none of them will step up and do you right when things go wrong.. Keep it all under one roof with the best builder as close as possible to you in the Ottawa area. Do your homework and ask, Google, and whatever else you have to do to ensure you a goin' down the right path. Believe there is one in the Monkland area who came in the Top 5 or Top 10 in the U.S. engine builder's challenge this year. Don't remember his name from the Hot Rod magazine but ...
T.
 
#30 ·
Yah but that sounds expensive, and not much fun.....I absolutely love playing with motors, and have zero issue asembling stuff....I hate wiring, no idea how to do body and paint, but the junk I have screwed together has so far proven to be reasonably quick and dead reliable....and really, that's the best feeling ever.
 
#29 ·
My vette was......lets say cosmetically challenged.....needed a rad support, headlight support bar, paint, interior, some brake work, bird cage......it was quick for what it was, real quick actually, and took all the abuse I could throw at it. I loved it, and will likely miss it come summer time, the panel is neat, but its a big cumbersom whale, and its sloooooow.....don't know if I will keep it or not yet, been through 5 cars in 3 summers so clearly I have no loyalty and little intelligence....and the fact that its pro street means unless it goes like 10's its always going to be a poser car lol....I dunno, if i can get it to run a 12 anything, and be reliable, without spending a fortune the I will likely hang onto it. Getting a heater for my garage for Christmas, and then following some f-bird advice with some of my own opinions will start ordering parts and maybe that will get me enthused to do something with it over the winter.
 
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