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02-02-2013 12:31 PM
joe_padavano
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Originally Posted by 75gmck25 View Post
Since I'm paying regular insurance rates on the truck and I only carry liability insurance, my insurance company has no heartburn with antique plates. I'm sure it also helps that its the third vehicle on a policy with only two drivers.

However, if I tried to insure it with a specialty company as an antique vehicle to keep cost down, they usually have very specific restrictions. For example, one company I checked would have required me to certify the vehicle was stored in a garage when not used, and if I used it for anything other than traveling to car shows I would have problems making a claim.

Bruce
This has been my experience as well. The specialty insurance companies can offer lower rates BECAUSE of the use restrictions.
02-01-2013 05:33 PM
75gmck25 Since I'm paying regular insurance rates on the truck and I only carry liability insurance, my insurance company has no heartburn with antique plates. I'm sure it also helps that its the third vehicle on a policy with only two drivers.

However, if I tried to insure it with a specialty company as an antique vehicle to keep cost down, they usually have very specific restrictions. For example, one company I checked would have required me to certify the vehicle was stored in a garage when not used, and if I used it for anything other than traveling to car shows I would have problems making a claim.

Bruce
02-01-2013 05:19 PM
39 chev I know this is not an answer to your question,but you may have a problem with insurance if you register the truck as an antique. many insurance companies are getting pretty particular about insuring certain vehicles.
02-01-2013 05:00 PM
75gmck25 I appreciate the feedback, but I think some of you are reading more into my question than is necessary. I am not asking anyone to ignore the rules or pencil whip an inspection.

- The truck has passed inspection every year in Texas for the last 7 years and I'm not aware of any existing problems. Tires and brakes are new and I have always replaced wear items as they cause problems. The inspector mentioned ball joints as an example of an item that would cause failure of the inspection, but never actually looked at them. I often got a similar reaction from inspectors in Texas, who seemed to start out expecting the vehicle to fail just because it was old.

- Most inspection stations in Northern Virginia are used to working with Hondas, Toyotas, etc., and maybe a few of the newer pickups. The guy at the inspection station admitted that he knew very little about inspecting a classic vehicle, let alone one that was a HD 3/4 ton truck. He finally got out his inspection book and was letting me read through the requirements.

- I have two other vehicles, and I participate in a program that reimburses me if I use public transportation to go to work. It would be a very unusual event if I ever drove the truck to work. I don't think antique vehicle plate restrictions will be a problem, but have always used regular plates in the past.

Now back to my original question. Can anyone recommend a shop somewhere within a reasonable distance of Alexandria, VA that would have experience in inspecting an "antique" truck? I registered the truck today with antique plates, but I would prefer to have a valid state inspection sticker (which is not required with antique plates). However, I would like to have an inspector who has more experience with this type of vehicle.

Bruce
02-01-2013 03:25 PM
joe_padavano
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Originally Posted by Mr. P-Body View Post
There are no emmission tests in the Richmond area. Can't say about Tidewater or around DC.
Ah, I know for sure that NoVA and Tidewater require testing, I assumed Richmond did also. In any case, the O.P.'s 1975 truck is exempt.

The other thing I should have mentioned is that if you legitimately own or operate on a farm, you can get Farm Use plates, which have their own set of rules, some easier, some harder than regular plates.

Here are some useful links:

VA DMV vehicle services

VA Motor Vehicle Inspection Manual

From that inspection manual, note the following under Section 80, Service Brakes:

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B. A minimum of two wheels or two wheels and drums, one front and one rear, must be removed from each passenger and multipurpose vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) or less at the time of inspection, except those listed in subdivisions 1, 2, and 3 of this subsection. Two front wheels or two front wheels and drums must be removed from vehicles listed in subdivision 3 of this subsection.
1. Motorcycles.
2. A new model vehicle is defined as a vehicle that has not been titled or leased and is less than one year old, measured from October 1 as of each year; if such motor vehicle does not have a model year, such measurement shall be made from the date of manufacture.
3. Trucks with floating axles that require seal replacement upon removal of rear wheels.
So per the manual, if the truck has a floating axle, they need to remove both front wheels for inspection, but not the rears.
02-01-2013 02:59 PM
Mr. P-Body Joe covered it pretty well. A couple of "quirks". I went through this as well.

The antique plates are available for any vehicle over 25 years old, true. The YOM plates are the same classification as the antique plates (I know a man that "cutom makes" YOM plates and they're legal. His 'cuda says "70 440"). VERY limited use. Also, even though the sticker is not required, at any time a state trooper can pull you in your antique and "inspect" it. It bettter pass, regardless of how it's "used", or you could be in for a tow bill. Even if only going to shows etc., it still must be able to pass.

If you're going to use the truck on a regular basis, as a "truck", there's no advantage to the antique plates, and could cause some headaches. VA Atate Troopers are known to be "humorless" individuals.

There are no emmission tests in the Richmond area. Can't say about Tidewater or around DC.

Welcome to "The Old Dominion"... (:-

Jim
02-01-2013 10:06 AM
joe_padavano
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Originally Posted by ogre View Post
here in michigan antique plates can only be used for parade, club or show related events.
they have started cracking down on antique car plates being misused.
First of all, every state has different requirements, so unfortunately what happens in Michigan may or may not apply to VA.

I've lived in Northern VA for 25 years. The VA DMV has all the requirements on-line, but I'll summarize.

You can get antique or year-of-manufacture plates. These can be used one of two ways. The traditional antique registration limits the amount of driving you can do annually. It also forbids using the car for commuting and if it's a truck you typically cannot use it for load carrying, only show. You also need to certify that you have another vehicle with a normal registration for commuting purposes.

There is also an option to use antique or YOM plates for a daily driver, but in that case all the same regulations apply as for normal plates - annual safety inspections, for example. With the daily driver option you are given the annual year stickers but you don't have to put them on your antique plates, you simply need to carry them with the registration.

With a standard registration, you need to get annual safety inspection, and frankly if you're driving on the same roads as I am, you're damn right you better have the ball joints and brakes in good condition! Emissions inspections only apply if you live in certain metro areas (Northern VA, Richmond, and VA Beach, for example) and even then only apply to vehicles less than 25 years old, so you're fine there.

The safety inspection does NOT require removal of full floating brake drums, only the inspection of the linings through the inspection plugs. This is fully documented in the VA State Police safety inspection manual, also available on line. I have a crewcab dually with a full floating axle and no inspection shop has EVER pulled the rear brake drums during an inspection.
02-01-2013 10:02 AM
327NUT If you want the correct answer talk to the Virginia DMV, they are the only ones that can truly tell you if your truck even qualifies for an antique plate. Also looking for a "freindly" inspection station may be difficult to locate as these places are certified to go by the rules of the state. If they get caught "looking the other way" they can lose their certification status and get fined big time.
02-01-2013 09:52 AM
ogre here in michigan antique plates can only be used for parade, club or show related events.
they have started cracking down on antique car plates being misused.
02-01-2013 07:34 AM
75gmck25
Virginia - Antique plates vs. regular registration

I just moved to Virginia and I have a 1975 GMC pickup I need to register. In Texas I had it registered as a standard vehicle (not antique), but only drove it to work enough to make sure it was still working right. It passed inspection every year with no problem.

The truck has a GM crate 350 of the proper year, and most of the engine is near stock. The Quadrajet is from an '86 truck and I have an Edelbrock intake and a mild cam from Summit. Tires and brakes are good and all the other inspectable items work.

I went to get the truck inspected in Virginia today and ended up with more questions than I expected.
- Virginia requires the inspector to pull one wheel from each axle and inspect brakes. I have a Full Floating 14 bolt axle, so pulling the drum (which the guy usually does) is a big job. He also mentioned he would have to inspect ball joints, and that is a common failure item on trucks.
- The truck is emissions exempt, but he has to do a visual inspection. The only item missing is the tube to the heat stove and the vacuum line to the thermostatic valve in the air intake, but he implied that he might find more.

I'd like to keep regular plates on the truck because I plan to use it on weekends to pick up lumber and other items. However, antique plates would be the easiest choice for now because I would not need to get a Virginia inspection.

My question: Anyone have suggestions for a place in the Alexandria, VA area that would know how to inspect a classic truck and not go overboard on unnecessary items that are more applicable to new cars? Or should I just get antique plates for now?

Thanks,

Bruce

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