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08-11-2014 01:34 PM
Mitchman
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Originally Posted by dcannell View Post
Mitchman, When you said you ordered another starter with a bowtie on the side, Was that from jegs/summit or was it from a place called chevrolet performance? I have the exact same problem.
Thanks
Chevy Performance part from Jegs (black with the Bowtie). Unfortunately it doesn't come in chrome.

I started 'er up last week... teeth mesh as they should. No surprises.

You found the off-brand stuff doesn't work too, huh?

809-12361146 - JEGS High Performance
08-11-2014 11:27 AM
dcannell
Starter prob here too!

Mitchman, When you said you ordered another starter with a bowtie on the side, Was that from jegs/summit or was it from a place called chevrolet performance? I have the exact same problem.
Thanks
04-09-2013 11:12 AM
Richiehd Yeah look at the difference between pic 1 and pic 3. Pic 1 the starter looks like it mounts 1/8 inch further forward (away from flywheel) than in pic 3. Good call Mitchman, I guess thats a starter for earlier motor? or just Chinese engineering? Thankl for updating us.
04-09-2013 10:10 AM
Mitchman
Success!!

Chevrolet Performance starter fits like it should, teeth mesh fully, backlash is good. The other two 'off brands' are going back.

Glad to get this off the list.
04-08-2013 05:06 PM
Richiehd Mousefink, I dont think that is going to help him, flywheel is already too far out, with no shims.
04-08-2013 01:42 PM
MouseFink Quick Time #RM-935 flex plate spacers. Kit of 5 steel spacers from .030" to .125" thick.

Fits: 1974-1985 Chevrolet V8 (1-piece seal)
04-08-2013 12:17 PM
Mitchman
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Originally Posted by Hogg View Post
This spacer is only for GEN 3/4 engine use or transmissions that were behind GEN 3/4 engines.
It wont help in this instance. The flexplates you are talking about are for GEN 3/4 use as well.

peace
Hog
Hogg, Thanks. Nice to see someone post some useful info. One-piece for me. I've got another (3rd) starter coming supposedly from Chevy Performance. If it doesn't engage any more fully, I'm going to have a machine shop bush and re-drill the bolt holes in the alum. mounting plate. This should be a roll-off-the-wall easy job and no matter the cost, solves my dilemma - time to move on.

I'll post later for posterity.
04-08-2013 11:21 AM
Hogg
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Originally Posted by MouseFink View Post
Besides the number of gear teeth and overall diameter, there are two types of flex plates. One flex plate has a "flat" crank flange bolt circle with a spacer between the crank flange and the flex plate, and it uses longer bolts. The other has a "dished" crank flange bolt circle. Just something to think about because I have see this happen before.

Spacer, GM 12563532 (1 spacer)
Bolts, GM 11569956 (pack of 10 bolts) *

*Some dealers will break up a package of parts and some won't.
This spacer is only for GEN 3/4 engine use or transmissions that were behind GEN 3/4 engines.
It wont help in this instance. The flexplates you are talking about are for GEN 3/4 use as well.

peace
Hog
04-08-2013 11:17 AM
Hogg The difference is the pre 86 and post 86 flexplates. Pre 86 had the 2 piece RMS and the post 86 had the 1 pice RMS.
The 1 piece RMS required the round crank end which necessitated the flexplate/flywheel with the welded on weight to make up for teh weight that was on the 2 piece RMS cranks.

I piece RMS left, 2 piece RMS right


I piece RMS


400 2 piece RMS


There isnt any difference between Vortec(1996-1999 305/350) and non-Vortec (1986-1995) flexplates.

I installed a reman starter on my 1997 Vortec 350 truck, and after a short while it started to make horrible noises as the starter gear wasnt fully engaging the flexplate gear.

Never did solve that issue.

peace
Hog
04-06-2013 06:43 PM
68NovaSS I don't know, so asking, is there a difference between Vortec and early SBC starters? I see some mini starters listed do not work with LS motors.
04-06-2013 05:25 PM
Mitchman
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Originally Posted by Richiehd View Post
Vortec flywheel different than earlier flywheel? I think it has weights on it. Just asking, I dont know
Yep, it's got a weight on it.
04-06-2013 04:47 PM
Richiehd Vortec flywheel different than earlier flywheel? I think it has weights on it. Just asking, I dont know
04-06-2013 03:38 PM
Mitchman
Quote:
Originally Posted by MouseFink View Post
Besides the number of gear teeth and overall diameter, there are two types of flex plates. One flex plate has a "flat" crank flange bolt circle with a spacer between the crank flange and the flex plate, and it uses longer bolts. The other has a "dished" crank flange bolt circle. Just something to think about because I have see this happen before.

Spacer, GM 12563532 (1 spacer)
Bolts, GM 11569956 (pack of 10 bolts) *

*Some dealers will break up a package of parts and some won't.
Dished here. Flipping it over would move the ring gear further away from the starter. I'd love to see a coupla shims twixt the crank and plate.... none to be found though. Thanks.
04-06-2013 02:44 PM
MouseFink Besides the number of gear teeth and overall diameter, there are two types of flex plates. One flex plate has a "flat" crank flange bolt circle with a spacer between the crank flange and the flex plate, and it uses longer bolts. The other has a "dished" crank flange bolt circle. Just something to think about because I have see this happen before.

Spacer, GM 12563532 (1 spacer)
Bolts, GM 11569956 (pack of 10 bolts) *

*Some dealers will break up a package of parts and some won't.
04-06-2013 02:21 PM
Mitchman
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Originally Posted by Richiehd View Post
Is there a shim in the body of the starter? Some of those mini starters you could shim the motor part forward or back...Just an idea. That thing needs to 1/4 inch or so
No shims, 'cept the ones loose in the box.
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