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04-20-2013 07:24 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
Jay ,please excuse my ignorance but whats a sticky???
It's a thread that stays at the top of the forum even if no one posts on it. I think this would be a good one.

Brian
04-20-2013 06:36 AM
69 widetrack Sometimes I read a post to fast Mike...got it now that I reread it...Red Face, won't be the first time....or last I'm sure....I didn't read the part about the guy working at GE...Gotta laugh at myself once in a while...

Thanks for the clarification....maybe Ill take more time reading a post next time...LOL.

Ray
04-20-2013 06:31 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by TucsonJay View Post
As someone suggested yesterday, I started a thread for custom paint tricks. I will try to add to it when I have time.

Someone also suggested a "sticky". I'll let you guys decide if you want to ask the moderator.
Jay ,please excuse my ignorance but whats a sticky???
04-20-2013 06:30 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
I understand Mike...about the saran wrap marballizer thing being impossible to get identical on both sides...getting both sides the same when it comes to laying out stripes or flames and having whatever is in the inside of the stripe or flame (other than something marballized) is what I was referring to.

Did you ever find out how he frosted the bulbs...my guess is he took it to the sandblaster, (maybe got lucky with a more gentle media) turned the air way down low, held the bulbs at a fair distance away and marred up the clear glass giving you a frosted bulb.

I believe that things are possible to be done, they must be because, here we are trying to figure out how this was done.

Ray
I dont believe it was an actual true story just something my Dad said to inspire me when I facing a challenge and help me to think out of the box...Im sure a big company like GE would have tons of frosted bulbsand would only have to get another box ....Hey ,maybe thats what the new guy did ,get a different box of bulbs and hand it to the boss....
04-19-2013 12:23 PM
TucsonJay As someone suggested yesterday, I started a thread for custom paint tricks. I will try to add to it when I have time.

Someone also suggested a "sticky". I'll let you guys decide if you want to ask the moderator.
04-19-2013 11:21 AM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
I was jus tryin to be funny Ray, Its impossible with saran wrap to get the same design in both sides.funny thing is, if the painter dosent know it he might just do it and show us ALL something.... Reminds me of a story my dad used to tell me.............................LOL,Here we go again with another story....
new guy comes to work at GE... the boss and crew play joke on new guy and give him a box of light bulbs....These bulbs are clear and need to be frosted,so figure out a way to frost them ,,,They all snickered and walked away (its impossible to frost a bulb once its all made)....two hours later the new guy came in with a box of frosted bulbs...he did it because he didnt know it was impossible... .............I never forgot that stupid little story....maybe thats why when someone says ,It cant be done ,I really kick it in gear and do it...or at least try it first....
I understand Mike...about the saran wrap marballizer thing being impossible to get identical on both sides...getting both sides the same when it comes to laying out stripes or flames and having whatever is in the inside of the stripe or flame (other than something marballized) is what I was referring to.

Did you ever find out how he frosted the bulbs...my guess is he took it to the sandblaster, (maybe got lucky with a more gentle media) turned the air way down low, held the bulbs at a fair distance away and marred up the clear glass giving you a frosted bulb.

I believe that things are possible to be done, they must be because, here we are trying to figure out how this was done.

Ray
04-19-2013 07:48 AM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by gearheadslife View Post
Brian, if you get a ance and you guys haven't started on it. can you get a photo of the whole strip front and rear.. and full car shots, I may not do that trick but like to see how those SS strips look on the monte..
as I've been going back and forth on adding them to mine
They are only on the hood, which makes the suggestion to re-do them all the better. Just those two stripes on the hood and onto the bumper as shown.

Brian
04-19-2013 06:43 AM
gearheadslife Brian, if you get a ance and you guys haven't started on it. can you get a photo of the whole strip front and rear.. and full car shots, I may not do that trick but like to see how those SS strips look on the monte..
as I've been going back and forth on adding them to mine
04-19-2013 06:08 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
If the time is available, then by all means, let him learn.

Mike, again, so true about laying out two stripes exactly the same. Especially if there is shading/blending air brush work involved A painter needs to know his materials, equipment and have the experience to make both sides identical.

Ray
I was jus tryin to be funny Ray, Its impossible with saran wrap to get the same design in both sides.funny thing is, if the painter dosent know it he might just do it and show us ALL something.... Reminds me of a story my dad used to tell me.............................LOL,Here we go again with another story....
new guy comes to work at GE... the boss and crew play joke on new guy and give him a box of light bulbs....These bulbs are clear and need to be frosted,so figure out a way to frost them ,,,They all snickered and walked away (its impossible to frost a bulb once its all made)....two hours later the new guy came in with a box of frosted bulbs...he did it because he didnt know it was impossible... .............I never forgot that stupid little story....maybe thats why when someone says ,It cant be done ,I really kick it in gear and do it...or at least try it first....
04-18-2013 09:08 AM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
Ray, this place is something else. They have sent many of us, paying our way to NACE, to SEMA, to management classes, to paint classes all over the place. They are really some great people. One guy in the shop had some serious chipped shoulder problems, he was raised in the mean streets of Oakland (one of the highest murder numbers in the country) and the boss sent him to a week long Dale Carnegie course! It changed his life, this guy is a COMPLETELY different man today because of that. And he drives 90 miles each way to work there! How do you like this, my son was getting married in Hawaii and I paid his and his fiance way there as a wedding gift. About a week before the wedding in the office my boss asks me "What days will you be gone, I haven't seen your vacation request". I told her I paid their way and I couldn't afford to go. She said you MUST go, she went into her office. A while later she called me in. She said to me, you MUST go to that wedding, if I give you the plane ticket will you go? I was stunned, I told her my wife's mom was ill and I didn't think it would be a good time to go and so on. She said you MUST go, ask your wife and let me know. I asked my wife who said YES GO, and my boss in minutes had got on line and bought me my round trip ticket and printed it out for me. I "had" to stay in Waikiki for 5 days because of the availability (darn it ). But can you believe these people?

And by the way, I kept me going a secret and I was able to walk in on them at a New Years eve party at Aloha Towers in Waikiki acting like I was a waiter asking them if I could get them anything! LOL, My daughter and her husband lived there, so it was my daughter and her husband (he was my secret agent, but had to give it away to my daughter darn it) and my son and his fiance standing there at 11:00 New Years eve with drinks in their hands STUNNED at the sight of me on a deck overlooking Honolulu bay. FUNNY stuff, an absolute treasure in my life.

Brian
Yes Brian, I know of people like that, they seem to be successful because of their good nature, not in spite of it. I applaud people like that and I have worked for a few of them...one guy I worked for won the City's "Humanitarian of the year" award. This guy was the biggest giver I have ever seen in my life, it seemed the more he gave, the more he got back. One thing that I feel these people have over other people is the ability to know when they are being taken advantage of and when they are helping a sincere concern.

Ray
04-18-2013 08:55 AM
MARTINSR Ray, this place is something else. They have sent many of us, paying our way to NACE, to SEMA, to management classes, to paint classes all over the place. They are really some great people. One guy in the shop had some serious chipped shoulder problems, he was raised in the mean streets of Oakland (one of the highest murder numbers in the country) and the boss sent him to a week long Dale Carnegie course! It changed his life, this guy is a COMPLETELY different man today because of that. And he drives 90 miles each way to work there! How do you like this, my son was getting married in Hawaii and I paid his and his fiance way there as a wedding gift. About a week before the wedding in the office my boss asks me "What days will you be gone, I haven't seen your vacation request". I told her I paid their way and I couldn't afford to go. She said you MUST go, she went into her office. A while later she called me in. She said to me, you MUST go to that wedding, if I give you the plane ticket will you go? I was stunned, I told her my wife's mom was ill and I didn't think it would be a good time to go and so on. She said you MUST go, ask your wife and let me know. I asked my wife who said YES GO, and my boss in minutes had got on line and bought me my round trip ticket and printed it out for me. I "had" to stay in Waikiki for 5 days because of the availability (darn it ). But can you believe these people?

And by the way, I kept me going a secret and I was able to walk in on them at a New Years eve party at Aloha Towers in Waikiki acting like I was a waiter asking them if I could get them anything! LOL, My daughter and her husband lived there, so it was my daughter and her husband (he was my secret agent, but had to give it away to my daughter darn it) and my son and his fiance standing there at 11:00 New Years eve with drinks in their hands STUNNED at the sight of me on a deck overlooking Honolulu bay. FUNNY stuff, an absolute treasure in my life.

Brian
04-18-2013 08:43 AM
69 widetrack Then he's a very lucky painter, I think you would agree though that most shops wouldn't allow that, they look at the bottom line and that's their main concern.

About 4 years ago I was asked to go to a shop because they had a paint problem. The problem was that they did a custom job on a truck, the painter quit right after the truck was done and the paint started peeling, right where the custom paint work was done (I can get into why it peeled but that wasn't the main issue now). What the owner wanted me to do was to fix the truck so that he could get the rest of the money from the customer and do it for free because I was the rep. His new painter was fully qualified to do what needed to be done but for the owner that would mean he would have to pay somebody twice.

To me, I thought that the owners request took a lot of gaul but his reasoning was, it's your paint that's on it, it failed, you fix it. I proved to him that the paint was fine, it was what was underneath the paint that was the problem and he still insisted that I repair the problem...because of money.

Ray
04-18-2013 08:18 AM
MARTINSR Ray, there is so much freedom at this shop it isn't funny. The owners are damn good people and they would like to see what this young man can do (for himself) too. You should see the Harley chopper he is building from a pile of junk parts he brought in two years ago. He has it tucked off in the corner by his locker in the corner of the shop. I am not kidding you, this thing is beautiful. And the custom paint he has done on it is very nice, changed it twice, it's damn nice. And the good part is, he enjoys it.

Brian
04-18-2013 07:02 AM
69 widetrack If the time is available, then by all means, let him learn. The problem is that the painter is working in a shop and I know if I was managing the shop the decision that I'd have to make would be to get it done, in and out, even if it was slow. The reason being that sometimes learning is trial and error, trial and error cost money in wages (unless the guy is flat rate) and materials...let alone booth time. That's the way management needs to think in order to be successful in our competitive insurance driven market.

A lot of ideas and techniques I use today came from people in the trade that shared how to knowledge with me. Practical hands on experience regarding custom work or painting was done on my own time, my own shop and my own materials. It would be great if there was shop out there that paid painters to gain that experience and there might be the odd one here and there but, for the most part, it's up to the painter to pursue the art side of painting on there own time.

Mike, again, so true about laying out two stripes exactly the same. Especially if there is shading/blending air brush work involved A painter needs to know his materials, equipment and have the experience to make both sides identical.

Ray
04-18-2013 06:43 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by TucsonJay View Post
Do you guys think there is enough interest to start a custom painting tricks thread in the paint and body forum?

I've been doing this for other people since the early seventies, so I am well aware that one-color paint is dominant right now.

Still, I imagine some might enjoy discussing some old and some new tricks.

Speak up if you are in favor, and I'll do a few posts myself to help start things up.

?????
I'd like to see that.... mainly to gawk at some nice work,but anything to do with an air brush and I'm lost...I'd love to learn shading for that 3-D look ...
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