|07-14-2013 07:48 PM|
|cyclopsblown34||If you were here or I were there, we'd be teaming up on it and making it what you want. I hope you find a shop to make her right or the ability to do it yourself.|
|07-13-2013 10:00 AM|
|tech69||She deserves a good pampering. She had a rough day yesterday.|
|07-13-2013 07:36 AM|
|07-12-2013 09:50 AM|
|tech69||this is true. If they lie about one thing what's to say they don't lie about something else? Honesty is very important in this trade.|
|07-12-2013 09:46 AM|
|07-12-2013 08:58 AM|
|tech69||it's always good to get progress pics or show up once a week to ensure they are in fact working on the car. when I track my time it's never exact just a rough estimate. If I worked on a car for 1.5 hours I might put one hour or two on the sheet. As long as you pay up you won't have any problems. Hope it all works out for you in the end.|
|07-12-2013 08:12 AM|
|NEW INTERIORS||Good luck..|
|07-12-2013 07:29 AM|
I'm so confused right now
The guys at the shop are always very friendly and welcoming towards me, and the standard of work they've done is very impressive
I started this thread because I was concerned about how many hours it was taking to get the car done
**I do have to say though, as a complete newbie to professional bodywork, what I 'think' is a long time could in fact be completely acceptable......but I don't have the experience to know if that's the case or not. I didn't want to be 'that customer' so I thought I'd ask you guys and you could set me straight**
So, whilst I don't know, and I'll never really know if they're telling the truth about the hours they've spent on my car, I'm willing to lay my life on the line and say they're definitely lying about my chassis to inflate my bill.....it's still got my welds on it
Bottom line is I'm concerned about what they're telling me, and I know they've already lied to me at least once
I'm going to collect my stuff later today. I'm taking my father and a couple of friends with me. Non of us are big tough-guy bullies, but both my father and I have won (the English version of) The Golden-Gloves so we should be ok
I've told the guys at the shop that I'm broke, and that's why I'm having to take the car. I haven't tried to confront them, so I'm not expecting any trouble
|07-12-2013 01:08 AM|
|tech69||I don't know either how we do this everyday. I ask myself that same question.|
|07-11-2013 10:25 PM|
|07-11-2013 09:19 PM|
|tech69||it's very hard to please the customer cause they simply don't know what's involved. Heck, we don't even know what the car was like. It is a small car but there's so many issues when dealing with bodywork that when you're doing old cars there's a lot to deal with. As a body man, I'll tell you straight up, and sorry to offend anyone, but bodywork IS the hardest thing to do in a shop when the quality is good. Everyone seems to think it's just a piece of cake to make everything near perfect but it's not. So when you pick up your car don't just go thanking the painter cause good body men make painters better, but when they buff it out perfect they return the favor. The unsung heros in a shop, the guys doing the dirty work, and the ones always pissing people off over time due to a lack of understanding of what the job entails. I did a 55 Chevy quarter two months ago and the boss thought it was an 8 hour job. Me and the old man just laughed at that one. They knew about some of the stuff I dealt with but they didn't know about the lower rear body panel pushed in, they didn't consider all the contours that had to be cut and welded. Turned out to be more like a 32 hour job but in the end it was worth it.|
|07-11-2013 08:07 PM|
I doubt you will see them ever.
When you have loaded up every thing ask where your new chassis is as you will need it because the one under the car is your original twisted one.
I do feel sorry for you as it should not have ended this way.
|07-11-2013 05:46 PM|
The response you gave with respect to how you knew it was your frame reassures me that you are in fact getting ripped off.
Get your vehicle out and as Brian said, bring people with you, to help and to witness...Once you have your vehicle back, the power is now in your hands. Take some time to collect your thoughts on how to proceed and what your next steps will be.
I always hate it when people tell me "if I where you I would.....", so I'm not going to make any suggestions on recourse, I'm sure you can make the right decisions all by yourself.
Wishing you the best.
|07-11-2013 05:13 PM|
|07-11-2013 05:07 PM|
Thanks for the support guys
I guess since I'm new to all of this I'm probably a bit too naive for my own good
Having said that, I really didn't expect anyone would try and rip me off like this
I haven't told them I know what they're up to. I just told them it was costing too much and that I couldn't afford to continue with the project at this time
I imagine there'd be a bit of trouble if I confront them - especially when they've still got my car. I need to wait until I get it back before I decide what to do
I guess I should just put it behind me and try not to get too bitter about it. I don't want it to eat away at me and spoil something I love
With regards to how I knew it was my chassis.....
There isn't anything as obvious as tags or numbers, but I stripped the car to its bare components myself
I took absolutely everything off the car myself, so I got familiar with things whilst doing the tear down
Also, before I took my car to the shop I did a little welding on the frame myself
I fitted a front crossmember, and a few captive nuts along the main rails
They were some of my very first welds, and they weren't very pretty, so I remember exactly what they look like
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) there's absolutely no doubt they the body is still fitted to my original chassis
I'm picking all my stuff up tomorrow. Fingers crossed I get everything back safe and sound
I'm really so very paranoid right now
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