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Today 05:09 AM
deadbodyman nutsertsare great but tend to spin out when they get rusty so Jclips would be my choice no special tools just drill a hole and slip the clip over the edge ,you would also have an adjustable threaded hole for the bolts to help with lining it up..J clips are the threaded clips used to mount fenders on ...
Today 05:01 AM
Too Many Projects
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That is a good thought. Now would be the time to do it but I was kind of afraid I would end up putting the seam right where the shifter went.

Maybe I should rethink this a bit.

John
The seam would be plenty far over as you are now. I would make the template wider so it overlaps the pans right to the beads. You can then put nutserts in the pans and have the hump bolt to them and across the front. The back edge will take a little more thought as to ending in front of the crossmember and an additional pan from there back, welded to the crossmember for structural strength, but with a leading edge for the back of the hump to bolt too.

The 4 speeds will fit what you have shaped now easily and the Muncie and Sag are completely interchangeable at a later date. They do take different shifter mounts, however. I "modified" some extra Muncie rods I had here to work with the shifter on the Sag I bought for the GTO. They aren't "elegant" looking, but they work.
Yesterday 09:27 PM
John long
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theres a lot to be said about a removable tranny tunnel too ...
That is a good thought. Now would be the time to do it but I was kind of afraid I would end up putting the seam right where the shifter went.

Maybe I should rethink this a bit.

John
Yesterday 09:21 PM
John long
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Do you know what transmission you will have yet ? You might want to hold off on the tunnel to measure for clearance of a different trans. If it is the 4 speed, you should have room. A 5-6 speed or 4l80 may need a taller floor.
I agree. I have had a good Muncie with a new shifter sitting on the shelf for several years looking for a home. My intent is to put it in here. I also have a good Saganaw that I might put in it if I decide the car is for sale. I would hate to see my Muncie go down the road.

John
Yesterday 09:20 PM
deadbodyman theres a lot to be said about a removable tranny tunnel too ...
Yesterday 09:16 PM
Too Many Projects Do you know what transmission you will have yet ? You might want to hold off on the tunnel to measure for clearance of a different trans. If it is the 4 speed, you should have room. A 5-6 speed or 4l80 may need a taller floor.
Yesterday 08:17 PM
John long The front pans are fitted and I have the transmission hump template ruffed in. it appears this section is going to be very straight forward.

John



09-16-2014 07:56 AM
MARTINSR Great tip John, thanks!

Brian
09-16-2014 07:00 AM
John long
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That IS a slick trick for plotting panels...

Car is looking great. It should be far enough along to attend shows next year as "in progress"....
Thanks Mitch. You would be right if it was on a usable frame but alas, I still have to pull the frame out from the hardtop and build it.

Not sure how the finances will play into this either. Time will tell.

John
09-16-2014 06:48 AM
Too Many Projects That IS a slick trick for plotting panels...

Car is looking great. It should be far enough along to attend shows next year as "in progress"....
09-15-2014 09:56 PM
496CHEVY3100 A very good tip John ,thanks for the information It will be useful in the future,
09-15-2014 06:32 PM
John long I would like to share another little trick that I started using making upholstery panels. The neat thing is it works just as well for any other pattern.

Michael's Craft store, some Walmart's and other fabric stores sell a heavy clear plastic material that is 3-4'mills thick. It reminds me of plastic convertible top window material and the last I purchased was 3.95 per linear yard on sale at Michael's.



Take a piece of material and lay it on the panel You need to make a pattern of and either choose or create a reference line. Here I used the lip of the toe board.

Since it is clear you can see everything you want to copy. If it was a door panel you could mark the window cranks, door panel clip holes, arm rest holes, etc. For a bigger piece spray the clear material lightly with spray adhesive. It will hold it in place but will still be easily removed and laid on the material you are marking and will stick again there. Also, since only the material is sprayed lightly the panel will remain glue free. A Sharpie is perfect for marking it.

I did not need for it to be stuck since it was a small pattern and not very complicated. Tape worked well.

Look closely and you can see the material taped on this part of the floorboard and the bolts and floor board sections marked.



Now the clear pattern is laid on the floorboard and the lines are transferred to it as well as the location of the body mount bolt.



I trimmed the panel with my plasma cutter next. I admit, I played it safe and cut it slightly undersize first and then did a final trim cut.





After a significant amount of tweaking the panel and my floorboard supports it lays in place nicely and is about ready to be drilled and plug welded in place.

Hope this helps some one that needs a simple fail safe way to make patterns that do not lend them selves to simple measurements.

John




09-13-2014 08:15 AM
boothboy John, it just looks great. Thank you for all your posts!

BB
09-13-2014 08:12 AM
MARTINSR
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It really did do a good job and I used less media than would fill a gallon jug. Pretty cool.

Just finished cleaning the gun. Now I won't have to watch my floors turning brown. At least not the top side.



WHOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!

Brian
09-13-2014 03:12 AM
123pugsy Real cool John.

It's always a great milestone to hit the primer stage.
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