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Yesterday 09:53 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
Good idea. That may be exactly what I do. It will be time to make a decision soon.


John
Just my opinion, but I always do my best at fixing what is wrong, not making what is right...wrong. I know you have to do it sometimes, I am not saying I am above it or something. But the first goal is to make what is wrong right. Of course when you are anal, then you never give up.


Brian
Yesterday 09:51 PM
496CHEVY3100 I suppose there are a lot of people who are wondering if it takes 6 weeks to fit a quarter panel on a car. I know I am.


I have been 2 months trying to mount my tail lights,you are doing better than me.
Yesterday 09:51 PM
MARTINSR You can also planish a gap closed. I was blown away when shown this. You can do a hell of a gap closing it right up, I was amazed.

Brian
Yesterday 09:22 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
Seam sealer in the wheel house joints keeps water out...

Remember the Lazza trick to beads. Pinch/stretch the panel in the English wheel first to have material for the bead...

Yes and it works well. I just am too lazy to do that for an area that wil not be seen. I am afraid though, that if I don't put some beads in, it will sound
ike a base drum.

As far as seam sealer goes, that will indeed be a must. I have been looking around the SPI forum to decide what is the best to buy.

John
Yesterday 09:13 PM
Too Many Projects Seam sealer in the wheel house joints keeps water out...

Remember the Lazza trick to beads. Pinch/stretch the panel in the English wheel first to have material for the bead...
Yesterday 07:51 PM
John long I suppose there are a lot of people who are wondering if it takes 6 weeks to fit a quarter panel on a car. I know I am.

I did get quite a bit done today though. I made three tangs that I could mount my quarter to while I trimmed and fitted it. I had never used drill screws before DeadBodyMan described how well they worked. (thanks again Mike). They really do work well and let you put the panel in exactly the same place time after time.

Here is a shot of the mounting tangs, crude that they are.



Next I trimmed the body and quarter until I got a good fit. As a matter of fact it is really an amazing fit for an amateur panel beater.






Now that the quarter is snuggly in place I can finally scribe the fender well lip and make sure it will meet with the lip on the wheel house. I want to make sure they are as good as I can make them and then I will put some beads in the wheel house panel, trim it, and then fit it back to the quarter.

The reason for doing it in this way is to make sure the panels still line up after running some beads. They do indeed tend to shrink or move some after running beads and I want a good tight fit and hopefully keep water from getting past the wheel house into the quarter.



On a final note, I took one of my pieces of quarter panel trim and taped in place just to double check my contour of the quarter.

Perfect.......no......... Acceptable.......You betcha!

John

Yesterday 02:26 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
So, adjust the skirt. Probably easier than adjusting the quarter.
Good idea. That may be exactly what I do. It will be time to make a decision soon.


John
Yesterday 10:54 AM
123pugsy
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Goodness only knows how much time I have in trying to get this wheel well right. I probably should have started over and made the radius a little tighter. It is much better but I think it is still too large. The skirt is not going to be a snug fit even with the gasket in place.

John
So, adjust the skirt. Probably easier than adjusting the quarter.
Yesterday 06:11 AM
Too Many Projects
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Originally Posted by Kma4444 View Post
I know I can get hung up on something like that and have to struggle to get through it. I have trouble going on to something else as all I can think about is the trouble spot.
I get tunnel vision with an issue like that too. It's hard to do, but walking away and/or working on something totally unrelated for a couple days seems to help the "imaginative" side of this crazy hobby and I see the problem differently when I go back to it. Sometimes, I am able to envision a different strategy and come up with a solution. John has video references that he can watch and maybe something will trigger a different or forgotten technique that will help him get thru this...
Yesterday 05:40 AM
Kma4444 I know I can get hung up on something like that and have to struggle to get through it. I have trouble going on to something else as all I can think about is the trouble spot.

Looks to me like you are closing in on a solution. Great stuff going on there for sure.
03-28-2015 08:10 PM
1971BB427 Love it John! Amazing work, again!
03-28-2015 07:45 PM
John long Goodness only knows how much time I have in trying to get this wheel well right. I probably should have started over and made the radius a little tighter. It is much better but I think it is still too large. The skirt is not going to be a snug fit even with the gasket in place.

John



03-25-2015 05:20 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
So now that you have a running big block, what is the plan for the 396 you have ?

It looks like the skirt, and wheel house panel, could rotate down some at the front to fill the gap at the back ? How does it line up with the EMS panel ?
The 402 was practically given to me by a friend. I am not sure but I may build the car with the 454 and at a later date build the 402 and change them out if the 454 shows any signs of being tired. Too soon to even think about that though.

On your second point, don't go by the rear quarter because that is a hand made piece itself. Also, the skirt will drop down 3/16 of an inch or so once the new quarter is installed and the skirt has a seal added. I probably should have spaced it down with a couple of pieces of stir sticks but did not think about trying to make it look better.

The EMS panel doesn't line up with anything. I have aready trimmed the top off of it. I have removed the door jam area from it and there is a 1/4 inch gap between it and the inner rocker at the bottom. I am going to have to hand make the front sectiion of the wheel well lip to get it to fit the skirt no matter how I position it.......Go figure

John
03-25-2015 05:03 PM
Too Many Projects So now that you have a running big block, what is the plan for the 396 you have ?

It looks like the skirt, and wheel house panel, could rotate down some at the front to fill the gap at the back ? How does it line up with the EMS panel ?
03-25-2015 04:49 PM
John long Finally got back to Old Rusty.

It has been time consuming to get the wheel house in the proper position and trimmed to fit the rear quarter but I am finally pretty confident that it is where it needs to be. Still needs final trimming around it's radius but that is a simple thing.







The wheel well lip is going to fit much better when I get the quarter fitted and the extra thickness of the quarter panel flange but you can see where I am going with the skirt clamped in place for a template.



Since I had nothing to measure from it was very time consuming to get everything positioned as it needs to be. A little more planning ahead could have gone a long way to simplify this operation.

Once I get this wheel house trimmed and a small filler piece added to the rear, I will fit the EMS lower front patch panel........Forward March!!

John
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