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Yesterday 02:29 PM
deadbodyman I guess we're both right...
10-18-2014 05:31 AM
1971BB427 Nope, Tapmatic.
10-17-2014 10:35 PM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Yep, I use Tapmatic for most of my drilling jobs on thicker metal. Keep a can sitting by the drill press to dip the bits in.
Tap magic ?? I think thats what I use ,its expensive ,and Id fill a small container with just a little because in less than 5 min I knock it over and spill on the floor,then I remembered something about gasoline trucks filling the tankers up with something like steel wool so the gas wouldnt slosh around when they hit the brakes and race cars doing the same thing so I tried some foam I had laying around ,put it in my little can and IT WORKED no more spilled oil but the can sitting on the floor was a PITA so I got a free magnetic bolt tray (with purchase) from HF but it was too small to hold bolts and sat there on the side of my tool box so it was perfect to hold the steel oil can where ever I needed it and as a plus I could keep my drill bits right there too without looking for them every time I needed a different one...Only one problem ....the drill bits get magnetized ,so all the metal shavings stick to the bit but all and all its a much better way to get a few hundred welds drilled out ,cheaply so I thought I'd share the idea.....but to tell the truth when I run out of cutting oil I use old motor oil from my DIY oil changes.....Talk about .......frugal.....I dont even throw that away.....
What I want to know is: How many other uses there are for used motor oil and tranny fluid....
10-16-2014 09:35 AM
1971BB427
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Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
After you first posted this I got some cutting fluid and was amazed at how well it works when drilling or tapping. I have always used just plain oil, it makes sense but then it doesn't, you know what I mean? But to use the RIGHT STUFF, "Cutting fluid" AHHH HHHHAAA Thanks for pointing that out!

Brian
Yep, I use Tapmatic for most of my drilling jobs on thicker metal. Keep a can sitting by the drill press to dip the bits in.
10-16-2014 07:56 AM
MARTINSR
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one more good reason to fasten everything down with drill screws first, it cant move around on you and BTW, John,the flat ground drill for cleaning out the paint in the plug weld holes was My idea. I came up with it because Im too .......frugal to use a 50.00 spot weld cutter for paint removal. Heck I wont even use one to cut welds.
now get a small can and some foam and make yourself a spillproof container to hold your cutting oil ...and HF has those magnetic bolt trays for FREE all you do is set the can of oil in it and you can stick it anywhere.
I hope you find something for all of us to do when we come up,at the rate your going all we'll be able to do is drink beer...

After you first posted this I got some cutting fluid and was amazed at how well it works when drilling or tapping. I have always used just plain oil, it makes sense but then it doesn't, you know what I mean? But to use the RIGHT STUFF, "Cutting fluid" AHHH HHHHAAA Thanks for pointing that out!

Brian
10-16-2014 06:46 AM
John long
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
one more good reason to fasten everything down with drill screws first, it cant move around on you and BTW, John,the flat ground drill for cleaning out the paint in the plug weld holes was My idea. I came up with it because Im too .......frugal to use a 50.00 spot weld cutter for paint removal. Heck I wont even use one to cut welds.
now get a small can and some foam and make yourself a spillproof container to hold your cutting oil ...and HF has those magnetic bolt trays for FREE all you do is set the can of oil in it and you can stick it anywhere.
I hope you find something for all of us to do when we come up,at the rate your going all we'll be able to do is drink beer...
You are correct Mike. It was you who showed making the square end on the drill. I apologize big time. I should have verified who had posted that before I commented. Relying on my memory gets riskier every year. It is indeed a great idea though.

BTW drinking a little beer isn't bad either.
10-16-2014 04:44 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Amazing how a bunch of littletacks will eventually move a big old piece of metal!
one more good reason to fasten everything down with drill screws first, it cant move around on you and BTW, John,the flat ground drill for cleaning out the paint in the plug weld holes was My idea. I came up with it because Im too .......frugal to use a 50.00 spot weld cutter for paint removal. Heck I wont even use one to cut welds.
now get a small can and some foam and make yourself a spillproof container to hold your cutting oil ...and HF has those magnetic bolt trays for FREE all you do is set the can of oil in it and you can stick it anywhere.
I hope you find something for all of us to do when we come up,at the rate your going all we'll be able to do is drink beer...
10-14-2014 08:59 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by 496CHEVY3100 View Post
LOL , The first Diamond plate Car Trailor I built years ago, I thought Manley steel cut this metal wrong ,,They Didn't,,I found the problem,

Ss always John your Belair floors are looking great
Thanks guys. Getting down to the drudgery now. Lots of welding and grinding to do. It isn't very exciting but there is nothing to do but suck it up and move forward.

At least I will have a floor to lay on to strip the dash and windshield.

John
10-14-2014 08:37 PM
496CHEVY3100 LOL , The first Diamond plate Car Trailor I built years ago, I thought Manley steel cut this metal wrong ,,They Didn't,,I found the problem,

Ss always John your Belair floors are looking great
10-14-2014 08:25 PM
MARTINSR That is something that was hard learned by me. How about welding a frame up that is square when you start and even though you are careful and using "common sense" (you think) when you are done it's a diamond!

Brian
10-14-2014 07:47 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
Amazing how a bunch of littletacks will eventually move a big old piece of metal!
Man, Ain't it the truth. Lesson learned the hard way by lots of folks.

John
10-14-2014 07:32 PM
1971BB427 Amazing how a bunch of littletacks will eventually move a big old piece of metal!
10-14-2014 07:05 PM
John long I thought it was interesting today how much the car has moved while I was welding in the front floor pans. If you remember I have kept the front and rear sections of the car seperate. Today verified that was a good idea. The center panel I made last no longer fit like it did and the RH door gap shifted a smidge. I added 1/8 inch shim to the front and opened up the door gap by moving the body back about 1/16 of an inch. I fitted this last panel again also.

If this was not a convertible it would have created an issue by not cross bracing it. Since it is a ragtop, I can correct the allignment and know the car is sitting on its mounts and not under a great deal of stress.

This last piece is now trimmed and tacked in......Still lots of welding to go. Five hours of work doesn't look like much. I certainly am glad I don't have a customer to explain it to.

John


10-13-2014 09:25 PM
cruzinTLT
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Questions are always welcome Cruzin. I am not welding anything to the frame. If you go back in the thread, you will see where I started out building the floor supports and body mounts so I would have a structure to weld to. The body merely bolts to the frame.

Actually, This frame is not going to be used except for the convertible crossmember section. I have a 53 Bel Air hardtop frame that is in much better condition than this one. I hope to get it sandblasted in the spring and ready to build. If I can finish the sheet metal work on the body this winter and build the engine and frame next summer I will be pleased.

John


That makes sense--I have followed from the start, but guess I missed those details. I am amazed and riveted to your build
10-13-2014 08:49 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by cruzinTLT View Post
Just curious--I noticed that it doesn't appear like you have treated the original frame structural members with any rustproofing or paint. Is it okay to weld to the old steel just as is? I am asking because you obviously are very good at what you do, and I am wanting to learn.
Questions are always welcome Cruzin. I am not welding anything to the frame. If you go back in the thread, you will see where I started out building the floor supports and body mounts so I would have a structure to weld to. The body merely bolts to the frame.

Actually, This frame is not going to be used except for the convertible crossmember section. I have a 53 Bel Air hardtop frame that is in much better condition than this one. I hope to get it sandblasted in the spring and ready to build. If I can finish the sheet metal work on the body this winter and build the engine and frame next summer I will be pleased.

John


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