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Yesterday 09:50 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
The mid seventy Monty Carlo's had 15X6 wheels and used to be fairly common to find. Look for a ~73-77 parts car and maybe they have the wheels but not listed ??

Pontiac and Buick mid size cars have the same 4.75 bolt pattern too...
Thanks for that tid bit. I did know the Monte Carlos were 15's.

John
Yesterday 09:18 PM
Too Many Projects The mid seventy Monty Carlo's had 15X6 wheels and used to be fairly common to find. Look for a ~73-77 parts car and maybe they have the wheels but not listed ??

Pontiac and Buick mid size cars have the same 4.75 bolt pattern too...
Yesterday 09:15 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
Surely you could find a couple wheels local on craigslist ?? Too bad David is layed up, I bet he has some laying around...
It is strange that 15x6 steel wheels are so scarce. I have been watching CL for weeks.....Nada.

Most of the small pattern Chevy wheels are 14ís. They made the 15's but they are scarce. I could buy them new but I hate to pony up for new ones until I am sure the size and offset will work for me.

John
Yesterday 09:06 PM
Too Many Projects
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Originally Posted by John long View Post

Wish I had a couple of good 15x6 Chevy wheels for this thing. I may order some unilug rallys from Summit in a few days. If I run my '53 Fiesta caps it won't matter what is behind them.

John
Surely you could find a couple wheels local on craigslist ?? Too bad David is layed up, I bet he has some laying around...
Yesterday 07:06 PM
John long The Steering box is cleaned and painted as of today. Rotors came yesterday and spindles are assembled. Ready to install shocks, rotors, and steering box.

Wish I had a couple of good 15x6 Chevy wheels for this thing. I may order some unilug rallys from Summit in a few days. If I run my '53 Fiesta caps it won't matter what is behind them.

John

I had been watching these quarter windows on Ebay for a few days. The fellow just lested them as "53 Chevy convertible rear windows." I believe he worded the add so poorly no one ever saw it. Anyway, I won the quarter windows for $25 a piece and the run tracks for $10 apiece. I was the only bidder.




Rotors await,



Steering box awaits,




Should be able to button this thing up this weekend and move on to the rear.

01-12-2017 05:33 AM
deadbodyman Glad to see you back at it John.
01-11-2017 07:57 PM
John long Just a quick update. I have the frame back on jack stands and have started building the suspension. Once I get the front built I have to convert the brakes on the rear end, change out the gear set and install the rear.

It will be interesting to see how much inteferance I get with the engine and that big old X-member.

Anyway, I was glad to be able to work some yesterday and today.

John

01-04-2017 05:15 PM
deadbodyman If I ever buy a brake it'll have to be at least 6' because your average 2 dr classic car door bottom is around 52" and rockers about 6' and anything shorter I can bend up rather quick on my steel table. I've been using it with angle iron so long it goes rather quickly.
01-04-2017 08:04 AM
John long
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
I've had pretty good luck using my cheap HF E wheel for tipping curved bends too.
That is the real beauty of tipping with a bead roller. Tipping on a curve while keeping the panel in shape with a set of shrinker/stretchers opens up a whole world of possibilities.

Also, you have an unlimited length you can bend unlike a break.

John
01-04-2017 05:25 AM
deadbodyman I've had pretty good luck using my cheap HF E wheel for tipping curved bends too.
01-04-2017 05:10 AM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by damnesia View Post
I'm okay with the lathe. I was referring to never having used, or physically seen for that matter, a tipping die. Looks to be simple design. I've tried to look at them in detail on youtube and the internet and there seems to be a huge variety of designs. Some people just use a flat disc ( like a huge washer ). I turned a test one out of a small piece of stock that was just laying around. It turned out okay. A friend gave me an large steel pin from one of his excavators and I'm going to make one and start playing around with it.
Can be anything. I used a 3" stainless disc that I had laying around.

Try to keep the front flat as you will be lifting the metal flat up against the face.
01-03-2017 10:18 PM
damnesia
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
Any type of tipping die is used for putting a bend in a piece of metal.
You've seen so many kinds because you can make one out of pretty much anything that looks like it.
Keep the front of it dead flat if you can as the bending of the part comes from the tool itself and you lifting the metal at the same time.

Start turning on your lathe and you'll learn right quick. Watch Youtube to learn more.

If you want to buy, Harbor Freight in the USA or Princess Auto in Canada.

I'm okay with the lathe. I was referring to never having used, or physically seen for that matter, a tipping die. Looks to be simple design. I've tried to look at them in detail on youtube and the internet and there seems to be a huge variety of designs. Some people just use a flat disc ( like a huge washer ). I turned a test one out of a small piece of stock that was just laying around. It turned out okay. A friend gave me an large steel pin from one of his excavators and I'm going to make one and start playing around with it.
01-02-2017 01:36 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by old trucke View Post
Guys
U can make an inexpensive tipping die using a 1 " washer and a shaft collar ,the size o f the beadroller shaft, Center the washer on the shaft collar and tack weld 4 spots , sharpen washer edge on lathe to your own specs for crispness of tiped edge .
Larry M
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Originally Posted by Train View Post
As long as we're a little off topic. Do the top and bottom die have to be the same diameter? My mind says yes, but if they're home made that seems to be a little tougher challenge to come up with.
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Originally Posted by old trucke View Post
If your bead roller has both shafts drive then yes would be best if both are same dia , but ive gotten away with 2 different sizes , Reason is larger one turns faster than the small .
Not trying to hijack anyones thread here .
Thanks Larry m
It's all good.

I only used the pulley because I came accross it on Ebay for something like 4 dollars and it had the 21 mm ID shaft I needed. One little plus was the fact that it is recessed a little bit in the end and allowed the end bolt to sit in a little more. That allows a little tighter bend before you have to go to the hammer and dolly. A heavy washer would work great as would anything with a sharp edge.

I do believe the upper and lower needs to be about the same OD. There is no need for the dies to be slipping on the stock.

John
01-02-2017 12:05 PM
old trucke
dies

If your bead roller has both shafts drive then yes would be best if both are same dia , but ive gotten away with 2 different sizes , Reason is larger one turns faster than the small .
Not trying to hijack anyones thread here .
Thanks Larry m
01-02-2017 11:54 AM
Train As long as we're a little off topic. Do the top and bottom die have to be the same diameter? My mind says yes, but if they're home made that seems to be a little tougher challenge to come up with.
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