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02-01-2004 10:14 PM
r8ptan8 I agree with tm454. But I still like to read these forums to gain knowledge about ford and chevy. Hell my grandpa wouldn't co sign for my dad to buy truck unless he bought a chevy. But when my dad got older he bought fords. Now he owns a nissan. Weird huh.
02-01-2004 07:49 PM
Rubberman2003 Tm454 hit it on the head ALL what YOU want/LIKE.
02-01-2004 06:59 PM
tm454
chevy-ford-hemi-jap crap

Who really cares what the other guy stashes in his garage? I don't, run what YOU think is best. In my opinion the chevy is cheaper to build up and the hemi weighs a ton and fords don't sound the way I need and engine to sound, but thats JUST my opinion and dosn't mean anything to anyone other than me, so who cares?? A guy at work bought a 426 wedge in pieces and is having it all machined and balanced and with the duel quad cross flow intake he just bought he has $9k in it, no headers, or carb or distributor and it still needs to be assembled? $1400 in a rebuilt 727 trans and new torque convertor and he just bought a Super bee to drop it into for $5900! You run what you want and I'll run what I want and these guys who ask which is better ford or chevy, man they are just trolls trying to start trouble and some of them are very good at it. Don't play the trolls game. This post serves no purpous other than inflame people, don't play the trolls game.


Tazz
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Rat Rods Rule!
02-01-2004 05:37 PM
sedan_dad Flatty's if your counting in the cool factor.
01-16-2004 02:14 PM
bullheimer im with paperairplane too, 1000HP suburu? buick regal v-6's, etc etc. GOT CASH???? eventually we can all build $70,000 ford mustangs.
01-12-2004 04:04 PM
r8ptan8 Yeah I would have to agree with bullheimer. The 350 is very versitle. It also can be built with little bucks for big bang. But you have to agree that if you spend the G's and the time with a good old fashioned FE block you will have some serious stompin power... Oooh! Can I get an ahmen?!

300 inline forever baby
01-12-2004 03:37 PM
paperairplane Different question, always same answer: GOT MONEY?? With enough cash, anything can make gobs of power, be reliable, fly, float, whatever.... I mean, if you can build a 10 sec honda....
01-12-2004 01:33 PM
bullheimer i dont know much about fords quality because i never got into them. as for block thickness etc. i couldnt even begin to tell you. i can tell you that yeah, chevy does have a little prob with the siamesed ex. ports and i really wish the guy who decided to put the distributor in the back of the engine had one shoved up his happy hole! as for general overall quality, since chevy's camaro went **** up due to lack of craftsmanship and ford is still selling a ton of mustangs, i would have to give that to ford. i also prefered ford 4x4's to chevy's as well even tho i own a chev. but only because in the late 70's ford put limited slip front and rears in their trucks while chevy used open gears, which blow.

even tho magazine writers may or may not know what the hell they are talking about and i just said this in my pony car post i will quote you word for word an article about a FORD build up 347 stroker to be exact , out of a truck mag: oct 2003 custom classic truck::

"the chevy small block is undoubtedly the king of racing and hot rodding, but there is little doubt that the ford small block beats everything else for a solid second rankning in performance engines. in the mid 60's the mustang debut was a success because the high perf. 289 competed on an even footing with the chevy 283. as the muscle car era progressed, the small block ford 289 and 302 fell behind in performance to the larger 327 and 350 chevys. the maxs hp of a production line boss 302 was 290 hp, while there wer numerous factory stock small block chevys that easily exceeded that number. when ford eventually upped the displacement of the small blocks to 351 in 1969, the performance still never exceeded 290 hp "
later he talks about how the ford heads have a hump that restricts flow, needs to be enlarged to at least 160 cc from 145 to match a chevy, and bags on the stock intake design with too sharp of bends due to intake ports being some close to the carb and some far away ( dont dont have any idea what he's talking about) and the smaller size of the valves.

just that writers opionion.
01-12-2004 11:55 AM
k2mooch In my opinion, I don't like the chevy exhaust port design. The 2 in the middle has got to store alot of heat near the center of the head. Plus the length of 2 center header tubes is shorter than the outer 2 per head. So I don't even know what that would do for backpressure. Are there any benefits to this design that I'm not thinking about?

I like the Ford ones better. Everything is spaced out evenly. Looks better, probably cooler. Still not sure about the ramifications of backpressure, can anyone explain?


MoocH
01-07-2004 11:53 PM
r8ptan8 Instead of comparing hp between a 351 and a 350, compare the the quality of the two. I think I would like to hear your opinion bullheimer. I think I like your style.
01-07-2004 07:41 PM
bud-23 Hey Deuce _454. I just read the article for the first on the 400 H.P. 302. I couldn't believe that my 302 has almost the same specs. Same cam only with a .496 lift instead of the .517 and I'm running roller rockers. I'm using a 600 cfm Holly verses his 750. Small world. Hey Bull, I used my die grinder. Norm.
01-07-2004 06:05 PM
r8ptan8 yeah I had an old 78 cordoba that had a 360 in it. When I was rebuilding the motor it reall dawned on me how much I really liked the 360 mopar. I am a ford man all the way but I really think it is more convienient or easier to work on mopar engines. But I am ford blue tried and true but you gotta love them mopars.
01-06-2004 11:15 PM
Crazy Mopar Guy Schubeck makes a 4 valve per cylinder Hemi, it has a "pent roof" chamber.
It's a "pent roof Hemi".
http://www.schubeckracing.com/index2.html


I guess each engine has it's own territory, or territories, but the four valve per cylinder stuff has a ton of design superiorities that can be taken advantage of?

Dodge Neons, Audis, Volvos, all use a pent roof chamber in various applications.
01-06-2004 09:56 PM
r8ptan8 I Heard somewere that came out with an engine with pent roof heads. What do you guys know about that? Now no offense to anyone I am here to learn, but I heard that it was suposed to be better than the hemi. What do you guys think?
01-06-2004 02:02 PM
bullheimer wow crazy mopar guy! too cool for this school. hey tm454 i believe you now, but this guy DOES own a machine shop after all. now i couldnt read all them itsy bitsy letters in the article but i would have to bet i couldn't begin to afford all the machine work he did to it for free. but i did read the line where it says YOU could duplicate it for under $2500. unfortunately i couldnt find my die grinder with both hands! so I couldnt duplicate it for no 2500.

jeeze, that big long wheelie with NO wheelie bars!
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