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05-18-2004 08:22 PM
ridlenracing Just a bit more info to make things easier.

You know about the Ram Air 3 heads all done right. the carb is a rebuilt with some goodies 750cfm quadrajet. Everything is new in the bottom half, arp bolts and better studs throughout.

We ran it to 5,400 rpm and that was all we needed, plus I think we have a bit more if it came down to a shoot out to the finish line.


I want to get more, but still have to stay close to stock, like fricken exhuast manifolds, I should port them and the intake if I could get by with that, na maybe just the exhuast. How about some copper head gaskets or shaving then a couple thousands.


Yeah, 6,000 rpm is to much i think too, thanks for all the good info on here, alot of very helpful guys.
05-13-2004 05:48 AM
Croz Heh, it is no problem. It sounds like you have your hands full.
05-12-2004 12:32 PM
Sudden Psycho 31 sorry if i was a little fussy, on the last post.

i had just put a screaming 2.5 year old to bed.

i have since recovered

31
05-12-2004 03:21 AM
Croz He did tell us what heads and intake he was using, and we know it isn't going to be making power up that high anyway. I never said it was stock, I was just pointing out that revving this thing up to 6500 is a little pushing it.
05-11-2004 11:31 PM
Sudden Psycho 31
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Triple angle valve job, titanium retainers, bronze guides, craine racing springs, crane cam with 465 lift, 112 lobe seperation, ram air 3 intake,
you are right... sounds stock to me... LOL

just trying to help, not get it exact.... take a pill

that small stroke big block ought to spin okay.

maybe not 7000, i simply plugged in the info and spit out the results.

no one talked about , intake or head flow, crank bob weight, whether it was balanced, (internal or external), back pressure, ignition.

we can... he didn't


31
05-11-2004 04:58 PM
Croz
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peaking in the 6500 rpm band
You are not going to want to rap that old pontiac that high unless you really build it up. This isn't a small block, and it won't rev like one.
05-10-2004 02:55 PM
stepside454 Also, dont forget. in 1970, that 366 HP was a gross rating,dont know if that was all that accurate compared to NET rating
05-10-2004 08:09 AM
Sudden Psycho 31 on the dyno, i used what info i had.. it should be close if parts are right.
you did not show what type of intake it had, that can make a big difference in high rpm horsepower.
you also did not say the size of the carb.

in the compression math i had @ 73 cc chamber to get you to the compression you stated.

i put in a 800 cfm and a different intake, adjusted the heads

you will like this better, as you can see everything makes a diiference

31
05-09-2004 04:37 PM
79 camaro 454 youll have an easy 360hp what you have is a ram air iii with a high lift cam it cant reduce hp.

ram air iii chamber volume is much smaller than on that dyno sheet your cumustion chamber is 72 cc not 86 or whatever is on there..thats a hell of a difference.
05-09-2004 02:08 PM
tm454
How much HP?

You say you started with 366hp so add for the cam and figure around 400hp with a decent exhaust system. Wasn't that 366hp with trips?


Tazz


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05-09-2004 11:48 AM
ridlenracing I dont get it. Stock hp from 70 gto ram air 3 was 366-370hp. So why is mine so much lower when I have ram air 3 heads (which are 72cc) with 10.5-1 compression and intake with a 4 barrel carb and a bigger cam. Just confused.
05-09-2004 11:23 AM
Sudden Psycho 31 i ran a couple of scenarios for ya...

with a open exhaust you look to be around the 300-350 hp @ peaking in the 6500 rpm band
300 lb ft at @ 5000

ristricted exhaust killed it
200 horse @ 6000
200 lb ft @ 5500

had a few assumptions... played with those a little ...

thats why i had a range

here is the output... i had to reduce it to fit the posting limits
hope it helps,

31
05-09-2004 11:18 AM
stepside454 I had to make a couple assumptions, Im going to assume per class rules astock manifolds, looks like about 322 HP @ 5000 RPMs & 377 ft lbs @ 3500 RPMs
05-09-2004 10:40 AM
ridlenracing It is for dirt track, with 2 drivers. I am sure you know what I mean, but anyway, the driver has the steering and brakes, passenger has the gas.

The duration is 224
05-09-2004 09:40 AM
stepside454 I know I know, Chevys are cheaper to build...but seeing a Pontiac motor anymore is way cool. by the way, when you say cruizer car... is that a stock car class...or cruizer,as in a driver ? anyway, need to know cam duration @ .050. Thanks John
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