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05-02-2013 08:22 PM
matt167 The crankshaft and rods can be used in the earlier big blocks and is somewhat common as the cranks are nodular iron, not much else for performance tho.
05-02-2013 04:34 AM
BOBCRMAN@aol.com See other post.

Back in 004 I had my first 8.1L and was going to make a street motor out of it. I found no reasonably priced stuff for the engine. Mostly marine stuff. So I sold it.

Since then I have had several customers with the same ideas and experiences. Too costly for parts.. Even the stock stuff is $$$$$$
05-02-2013 02:32 AM
laughlin81 So I found a 2002 Chevy vortec 8.1L with trans and I want to throw it in my 57 Bel aire. I want to completely rework the engine and make some serious power with it. Think it's a good idea? I want fuel injection and I'll probably supercharge or turbo the thing as well. Any clue on where to buy performance parts for these things? Any way to get rid of the auto trans and put a beefed up 6 speed behind it? Any help would be much appreciated.

Pat
08-26-2006 03:19 PM
Duke of Cruel
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Originally Posted by 406 ss monte
i found a 496 bbc. i've never heard of it before. is it the same as the 454's & any other big block chevy? do the bolt up like the older ones? do they use the same heads, intake, & other bolt on's? are they a good choice for a build up? like i said, i've never heard of them. i know about the 454 stroker 496, but this is a factory short block. thanks for your help.

its an vortec big block , same as the truck engines and in family with ls1/ls6 etc.
DoC
08-08-2004 02:02 PM
deuce_454 4.5x4, id say that getting the 496 shortblock and installing the rotating assembly in a bored 502 block with some aftermarket gen 6 heads, pro topline 320 or dart 360 allong with a rollercam is your best ticket.. a healthy mechanical-rollercammed well breathing 555 bigblock should be good for 750 Hp on pump gas with mufflers
08-08-2004 11:24 AM
GoneNova/406 if you would jump over to mortec.com,i think you can look at their bore and stroke list for big block chev's and find out that a 496 is a stroked 454=4.250x4......496=4.250x4.37....i'd almost rather have one of these than a 502which is 4.66x4
08-08-2004 11:01 AM
68c10owner there is a post at ls1tech.com about performance heads and a intake for the 8.1 motor. the parts were expencive but they were aluminum and would make alot of power.
08-07-2004 06:02 PM
Super Streeter There is limited swapability between the 8100 and most other bigblocks.The shortblock is a gen 6 type lowdeck with a 4.25" bore and 4.375" crank and stock length heavy duty rods.The crank is nodular iron with winged counterweights and is a good performance piece.I assembled a 555 using the crank from a 8100 vortec in a later 502 block{.030" over} and with lightweight pistons and steel 4.385" rods it lives fine making 850 hp at 7000rpm.We had some of the prototype stuff when it first came out and GM's intentions were to build a 496 inch shortblock that used standard bigblock valve angles and valvetrain components but had symetrical port prostock style heads ib it.The early version that I worked on had a 10 bolt head pattern like a ford motor but it used massive 5/8" studs.The intake used 4 bolt per side composite plastic intake.The heads flow very well and with a little bowl blending and some 2.25" intake valves they will outflow even the best aftermarket standard bigblock heads,and the cross section is small enough to make it all very streetable.Like I saud,the heads are very prostock like.I never worked with an entire production engine,but I know that the production piece uses a standard bigblock head bolt pattern and gen 6 water passages,and will use at leas regular mark 4 rocker arms if the studs are correct.It would be a great performance piece,and when I first got it I was working on building a combination to run my rae car in a class that requires production part number car or truck casting engine blocks and heads,with displacemnt limited to whatever you could stuf in a stock block,and since the original prototype was a siamsed wall casting,I was looking into it as the ultimate loophole combination once the engine went into production.The rulemakers required carbs and a regular distributor and sheet metal intakes or distributorless coversions were illegal,so the engine lost it's potential.All in all,if you dont mind working with the efi,the longblock has lots of potential for a drag race or stret rod buildup.Good luck.
08-02-2004 12:35 PM
deuce_454 the best way to check engine type is to look up your castingnumber. im betting yours is a 12556110. its a 01 up 4-bolt, Gen.VII 8.1L, "Vortec 8100", Truck engine

im not sure if you can get performance heads for a gen 7. but mercruicer just came out with a performance big block based on that engine that put out about 425 Hp with gen 7 heads, 9:1 comp and a 5000 rpm marine cam, so dont dispare
08-02-2004 11:00 AM
406 ss monte all there is is the short block, so if the older "good" heads wont work, i can't use it. i'm sure the heads & they use anen't worth a dime for 600 horse power like i'm wanting.

how can you tell the differance from all the blocks to know what it is? like the differance in a mark 4 & a mark 5 block?
08-02-2004 08:01 AM
BOBCRMAN@aol.com Correct. The water passages are different and the oiling is different. They do use a coil pak but the block is still for a distrib. The intake is impressive looking with the black and aluminum theme carried over from the cast valve covers.
08-02-2004 02:50 AM
deuce_454
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aren't the 502, & 396,427,454 heads all the same as fare as the bolt pattern on the deck surface? if they are, why wouldn't the older heads, intakes, & distributors work?
actually they are not the same.. the waterpassages are diferent, if you try and bolt a mark 5 head to a mark 4 block the water will pour into the oil.. and if the new vortech 8.1 is reverse cooling nothing will work.. it would be like bolting a set of camelhumps on an lt4. it might bolt up, but cooling would be non existent...

but with some tall reared gears i think it would be a killer engine, and if you can have it cheap.. have at it..
08-01-2004 09:54 PM
Miket I have one in my Suburban---345 hp and 460/470 lb-ft torque. They have distributorless ignition....so a manifold swap would be in order---I "thought" these were an all together different block than the newer mark 5 big blocks----could be wrong. With a good computer tweak and a cold air intake guys have seen 50-75 hp gain at the rear wheels on a dyno.
08-01-2004 08:36 PM
406 ss monte aren't the 502, & 396,427,454 heads all the same as fare as the bolt pattern on the deck surface? if they are, why wouldn't the older heads, intakes, & distributors work?
08-01-2004 07:44 PM
BOBCRMAN@aol.com I am told that none of the older stuff will work. 502 heads will work. Cranks are all cast, and use one piece seal type flywheel.

I accidently acquired one for the shop this spring from a local truck repair shop for $75.00 (core engine). They thought it was a 502, as it uses all the same external parts. This one had a noise, that turned out to be a spun rod. The rods are longer than a stock big block. I believe they were +.400 stock. We ground the crank and resized the rod. Freshened the rings and bearings and sold it to some very lucky person on Ebay. I would have liked to keep it..
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